Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Anyone ever gone to Gunbroker jail? I said something they didn't like in a listing and my account has been suspended now going on three days. The asshat's want answer any of the emails I've sent them to restore my account. Seems GB is now into cancel culture just like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 It's pay to play. Buy the gold membership and things just magically get eaiser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Spartan said: It's pay to play. Buy the gold membership and things just magically get eaiser... I'd purchase the Gold membership if I could but my account is suspended from any purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 In that case your only option is to contact customer service, let them know you'd like a gold membership, then wait to 30 days for someone to reply. I've been there and it sucks. Once you have gold , customer service gets back to you fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 I had a similar situtation where a seller flagged me as a non paying buyer as the money order was MIA in the mail. He flagged me, then the next day it showed up. They locked me from buying or selling both. I ended up having to make an entirely new account as it became a giant cluster F@@K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) @Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLCGunBroker locked me out once because there were two accounts associated with our IP address - one of them was mine, one of them was my father's. To their credit, they unlocked my account fairly quickly once I explained the situation to them. Your action/comment must have been pretty epic for them to lock you out. -KristopherH Edited March 30, 2022 by MontanaRenegade86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, MontanaRenegade86 said: @Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLCGunBroker locked me out once because there were two accounts associated with our IP address - one of them was mine, one of them was my father's. To their credit, they unlocked my account fairly quickly once I explained the situation to them. Your action/comment must have been pretty epic for them to lock you out. -KristopherH On a listing I mentioned if you don't want to pay an illegal "sales tax" contact me. I've sent about a dozen emails to support@gunbroker.com and so far all have been ignored. What a bunch of ass hats they won't even give you the courtesy of a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 I always put in my listings "this item is for sale locally and I reserve the right to end the auction early if no bids are present. Any questions contact me before bidding" as a hint......meaning-get ahold of me and lets deal off line to save each of use some money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Got Uzi said: I always put in my listings "this item is for sale locally and I reserve the right to end the auction early if no bids are present. Any questions contact me before bidding" as a hint......meaning-get ahold of me and lets deal off line to save each of use some money. That's a much smarter way but I can bet that is against GB policy as well. They seem to have gotten too big for their britches. I've sold countless items on GB and made them $1,000's of dollars. They could care less. So far I've sent about 20 emails to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) Any attempt to circumvent their rules is going to end in an account lock, not really sure what you're complaining about other than you got caught. They are not charging an "illegal" sales tax btw, yes it sucks but unfortunately the SCOTUS ruled in SD v Wayfair that states are legally allowed to require marketplace facilitators to collect sales tax on their behalf from sales transacted from their networks. GB is required to collect and remit the sales tax in those states which in their wisdom have passed marketplace facilitator tax laws. It's the same with eBay and Amazon, etc. If you don't like it you can try to get around it with the please contact with questions trick and either set a stupid high reserve or initial bid price so you get offline offers but IMO you're losing money and time in the end. Guys like Babb and Mitchell still make out like bandits with their no-reserve penny auctions even with the sales tax on top. Edited March 30, 2022 by b_san 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 It could also be just a password issue. A month or two ago the only way I could do anything was to upgrade my password to an upper case, numbers, at least 8 characters and a special character/ symbol. I could log in but not post until I made the password "more secure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Still no response from GB. Has anyone else had this happen and if so how long do they suspend your account? Is it indefinitely? I've sent at least a dozen requests to unlock it but no response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortbarrelpete Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Sale tax should(is?)be illegal I think is the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Most of the taxes we are forced to pay are by definition illegal but good luck getting out of them with your freedom intact. Just wait until theyget the brilliant idea to charge a “carbon credit” for breathing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 @Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Try calling them at their BBB listed number: 720-223-0164. Tell them you will be contacting the Georgia Consumer Protection Division (BBB says they are in Kennesaw, GA) to file a complaint if they don’t give you the courtesy of a response. I am on mobile right now, but I can look for more information later. -KristopherH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Many years ago GunBroker is difficult to get unlocked. I got locked because I used Tor Browser one time to log in.. Didn't know they had some policy against that.. so my account got locked. I got it unlocked within a day by calling their CFO or one of the chief officers from a phone # I found from a gun show registration. He was surprised and a bit pissed I called him.. though I get it. We worked out a deal where he unlocks me and I tell him how I got his phone #. LOL Honestly I can't blame them for forcing people to pay taxes. They are forced to. Mentioning to circumvent in an ad can be a liability for them if they allowed people to do it. I do blame them for any other fees they might charge tagged on as a buyer. . I personally hate what's going on for interstate sales. Have to force paying taxes in a different state and having what ever I make be posted to the IRS because it is over $600 is frustrating. Now you have to keep track of what you sell so you can deduct it from the money you receive (for example you sell your used gun/cloths/etc for less than what you paid).. then you would be taxed.. but you have to keep track of that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ryo said: and having what ever I make be posted to the IRS because it is over $600 is frustrating... Gunbroker does not file 1099-Ks for your sales, the law requires payment processors to file it not marketplaces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, b_san said: Gunbroker does not file 1099-Ks for your sales, the law requires payment processors to file it not marketplaces. Thanks for that info. eBay does which is what I'm thinking about since I do some of my non-firearm business over there.. and I guess they handle payments now that they are not directly using PayPal anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted March 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Ryo said: Many years ago GunBroker is difficult to get unlocked. I got locked because I used Tor Browser one time to log in.. Didn't know they had some policy against that.. so my account got locked. I got it unlocked within a day by calling their CFO or one of the chief officers from a phone # I found from a gun show registration. He was surprised and a bit pissed I called him.. though I get it. We worked out a deal where he unlocks me and I tell him how I got his phone #. LOL Honestly I can't blame them for forcing people to pay taxes. They are forced to. Mentioning to circumvent in an ad can be a liability for them if they allowed people to do it. I do blame them for any other fees they might charge tagged on as a buyer. . I personally hate what's going on for interstate sales. Have to force paying taxes in a different state and having what ever I make be posted to the IRS because it is over $600 is frustrating. Now you have to keep track of what you sell so you can deduct it from the money you receive (for example you sell your used gun/cloths/etc for less than what you paid).. then you would be taxed.. but you have to keep track of that crap. This was my point, what you said. I've had a few naysayers respond with, "It's your own fault" and I get that. Regardless, the Boston Tea Party happened because Americans were being taxed without representation. Is that not exactly what is happening today? Where is the line at what point do we say enough is enough? I get they are "legally" taxing us because the government says they have to but guess what, I'm sick and tired of being taxed. I'm sick and tired of being told the 2nd Amendment isn't for personal gun rights. I'm sick and tired of Progressives taking over this country. I'm not ready for "war" against the government but I fear that is the only way things will ever change. It happened twice in the country and it's not beyond happening again. In other news, Gunbroker unlocked my account and warned me with termination if I pull that again. I guess I won't push that boundary again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner11 Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Nice to hear you got unlocked. I thought that account was unfortunately going to be a gonner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Yeah.. I'm pissed and tired of government overreach. More so on my state's anti gun laws (ie recent magazine ban). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Side Arm Sams Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 7 hours ago, b_san said: Gunbroker does not file 1099-Ks for your sales, the law requires payment processors to file it not marketplaces. Exactly, this is true and the uninformed should take note. And if you're a business entity what's the concern in $600 being reported? Sales tax gets collected by GB, the vendor receives it and then has to remits it? WTH is the problem? For the blind to see....you're working with the state's money for the month free of charge. If you're in business, then understand that is what it is on a national level. You're not losing anything, you're complying. I's good overall for the industry. Get a CPA if you're in business, he's likely to save you thousand's of dollars and make all this go away. Business is business, comply or get out. For the little guy...well comply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Rifle Ordnance LLC Posted April 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Side Arm Sams said: Exactly, this is true and the uninformed should take note. And if you're a business entity what's the concern in $600 being reported? Sales tax gets collected by GB, the vendor receives it and then has to remits it? WTH is the problem? For the blind to see....you're working with the state's money for the month free of charge. If you're in business, then understand that is what it is on a national level. You're not losing anything, you're complying. I's good overall for the industry. Get a CPA if you're in business, he's likely to save you thousand's of dollars and make all this go away. Business is business, comply or get out. For the little guy...well comply. You are all about some compliance. I tend to question things a little bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 So the state I'm currently in, tax is not to be collected by the vendor until you ship 100K worth of goods into the state. I know the auction houses don't know this and don't care because I've confronted them about it and sent them the regs. They just collect it anyhow. I just wonder if they actually forward it to the state? Or if they are just pocketing it? Most CPA's have a lot of other stuff to deal with and the sales tax laws for each state require a deeper dive than most will take. Most use a software program that also doesn't account for the specific regulations, but just attempts to get the percentage right, and even that seems challenging for most software programs? Currently most companies are ignoring the $600 mandate. Just bought some doors from Lowe's. $800. Neither me nor the CC company is going to send them a 1099, nor does anyone else I know of? Sell that nice couch on facebook marketplace? Your buyer going to 1099 you for $700? If they cashapp, venmo, apple pay or paypal it could happen? Business is business, but most of the population has chosen not to be in business, and selling that used couch doesn't make you a full blown retailer IMO. The shizzle show doesn't hit the fan for three years, but I'm sure you're CPA has informed you of this? Accountants are great, unfortunately many people in business know nothing about accounting which is a disaster waiting to happen. Accountant's can tell you why you went broke right after they finish reconciling your books, course like bankruptcy lawyers they want payment up front. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Im not going to read your state's law but it's likely that it's written so that it covers the Marketplace facilitator (GB, eBay, etc) who likely has much more than 100k in total transactions in that state and thus all transactions which use the facilitator that terminate in the state in question are covered by the limit, or it could be that there is no minimum sales limit on facilitators in the 1st place, regardless of the company that's selling the items through the facilitator. Your business sales on your own website would be separately covered by the minimum limits though so if you only have a few sales in the state in question you would not need a tax id there nor would you be required to submit sales tax on behalf of your own business. With regards to your Lowes doors, they will get a 1099-K from their CC processors for all CC transactions at the end of the year. Additionally yes any garage saler who uses Venmo or similar will now get a 1099-K at the end of the year if any of their transactions during the year exceed $600 with no minimal number of transactions, thanks to the Infrastructure bill. What you wont get is a 1099-K for any PayPal F&F or Zelle transactions as they are personal money transfers and not intended to be used for commercial payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2412 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Gunsamerica is the same way.... Armslist wont even resopond to my e-mails. No issues on GunBroker yet but it's only a matter of time I'm sure. Oh excuse me, I have an issue with a seller, he misrepresented the item I won, I snt my paperwork into GunBroker but cause of COVID19 protocol they never went to the Post Office to pick up their mail. My BPP claim was terminated because I didnt respond, no because they didn't go to the Post Office and pick up their mail. It was returned to sender as undeliverable. What asshats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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