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I wanted to make a post about this in the event that it is helpful to others..... Whenever we have customers ship us transferable Machine Guns, we always suggest that they stick an Apple Air Tag in the receiver prior to shipping it.... Obviously this gives you, the owner, the ability to see exactly where your very expensive investment is at all times..... Currently we have 3 transferable M60s coming in for inspection and repair. Shipped USPS registered mail insured for 80,000 ... Despite the registered mail and high insurance, tracking for one of the guns has not been updated since the first scan last week. Tracking is showing that it is still in Washington State, despite that it is supposed to be delivered today. The owner who shipped it was able to check his air tag location to see that it is currently in Harrisburg, PA... Which is the last stop before it gets delivered here. The Air Tag also gives you some leverage if your package is not delivered and a period of time passes, or it is declared lost. You are able to contact the postal service and tell them EXACTLY where the package is. As opposed to them contacting the last known scan origin and having them check there for it (it is never there in my experience). Again, just sharing this information in the event that it may be helpful to others. Photo of an Air Tag Below for reference. They are cheap and worth getting to keep track of your expensive guns. Aaron - Mohnton, Pa Sales@BeltFeds.Com example below from an old shipment:

Why is this so hard to understand-does no one read before commenting-it is NOT a post sample as it was in the county before May 19, 1986 so it’s either a pre sample or transferable. Given what it stamped on the paperwork, both are pre samples. Good lord it’s not rocket science people….in the county prior to 1986 and says on the paper work “sales sample” those two points mean PRE SAMPLE.

Short video covering the differences between Rock Island Armory and Saco Defense M60s. These two manufactures are the most common and account for the largest numbers of M60s in the registry......Historically, and still today, Saco Defense M60s command about $10,000 more than RIA guns...The differences between the two guns is all in the receiver, being that RIA used all USGI parts (top covers, bolts, oprods, handguards etc etc) to assemble their guns.... It is important for perspective buyers to have accurate information on what those differences are.... In this video we go over a transferable RIA gun and Transferable Saco Gun side by side. Aaron - Mohnton, Pa Sales@BeltFeds.Com

Seriously. I thought ads were supposed to remain intact so that everyone can see what stuff sells for and to judge market fluctuations. There's a few on the parts section and a couple on the NFA section right now.

also hugely important is the locking lever and spring, especially in sbr setups. Lots of poor/bad/insufficient LL springs in clones. They absorb a lot of the energy. I would get new on both

I think it depends on what you're selling and your customer base? Personally, I prefer buying/selling on the forums but I only buy used stuff. It's probably been 15 years since I've bought a "new" gun. It's primarily lower quality repackaged old guns with more plastic? I bought a 30's hi power, vs. a new one. Paid a little more, but the quality is 80% better. "Value" is a term most people now are unfamiliar with, and cannot grasp? Prices are high.....on everything IMO, that's just the reality until the depression drops them on certain items. All gun laws need to be removed including background checks, since criminals commit crimes, not inanimate objects, nor the law abiding. Scams and fraud are everywhere in society, but the least amount of it I see are generally on the forums, so places like this seem far safer to me than say, calling a contractor, downloading an app, or buying an extended car warranty? As for spending habits of the US populous.....they have zero math skills, which is a HUGE problem for all of us in the end. I've boiled it down to "do you turn the lights off when you leave a room?" The people who do have some sense of math skills, those that don't will/do have financial problems.

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I agree. I miss the Buddy enforced listing criteria...you know back in the day when you could quickly scan a for sale list and see pretty much ALL pertinent features about the gun - including PRICE in the ad header alone. And boy if you missed a comma or screwed up the format Buddy would rain hell down upon you publicly. It was awesome and funny and very effective. Sheeesh...I still have nightmares all these yrs later about mis -formatting my WTS ad. hahahaha. Seriously though... removing the last list price of an item after a completed sale is poor form IMO. Sure I guess it's the sellers "right" to do whatever they wish to some degree...but it's pretty clear the ONLY reason you'd go obscure that after the fact is prevent current sales listing/buy data from other market participants so that somehow you can maintain your edge as you see it. I bet this is an exclusively dealer tactic. I personally do not like it- for anyone, dealer or not. While it's certainly NOT my site and I'm just a average Joe 6 pack here....I view you leaving that data intact as the price you pay to the community at large here for being able to list your item in the first place...yeah...even if you have a paid subscription. That's just a nominal amount of money for most sellers...esp when mgs sell for $10k-$100k.

^ I disagree strongly with all this. Real M16 or converted AR15 for a 21 yr old---they won't care ...and the huge grin after a mag dump will be exactly the same. They won't give one rip whether it's a A1 or A2 or a conversion or govt marked or anything else. Nobody I take shooting gives one rip whether its a hk clone or a factory hk...as long as it has a properly functioning legal sear in it. With all these MGs you are buying the paperwork/legality. The actual physical guns/metal is worth oh...a few hundred bucks maybe. You need to decide whether you are primarily a 1. Shooter. You intend to shoot the gun a lot. Have fun at the range etc with it. Actually shoot it a lot. OR 2. You are a collector. It will be a safe queen and will rarely come out and you'll baby it. It's more of an investment and something to pass down to kids etc etc. It has provenance etc. If you are a shooter (primarily) then just get what actually performs. Get the SP1 (regardless of take down pin size. It's no big deal). Brand doesn't matter. Condition of the gun does. For $25k you def. can get a AR15 conversion gun and that would be a GREAT gun for any shooter-grade collection. Seriously. They are legos , plug n play. Tons of options. And yes it will shoot perfectly fine- It's hard to screw up a AR15 receiver. Most anything can be fixed regardless. Parts are cheap. I highly rec' this option if you can afford it. On the other hand $25k is a lot of $$ and is a big jump into mg land. If your budget is just under $20k then I rec' an Uzi full size. If your budget is more in the sub $15k then I rec a Mac for sure. Any mac really...but esp the M11/9. It's the most common and has the most add on options. You'll want a Lage upper for it ( $1-$3k) in both pistol cal and the rifle caliber too. If you are more of a collector like Chef above then sure...go buy a M16A2 for $40k and put it in your safe and pull it out with white gloves on to show friends at your dinner party. That's fine as well. You are in collector world. Much much more expensive and snobby...and you'll delve into the specific provenance of the guns and you have a LOT to learn. This is NOT the path most people start on but it is what old former shooters tend to migrate to when they ....stop shooting so much and instead just collect mgs and talk about how fancy theirs are, etc etc. All fine.

I'm with you all on this.. Deleting ads and just writing SOLD clutters up the boards... @Buddy H We need bring back the ZAPPER ... Lots of ads on the old boards got zapped for board violations... Board etiquette is important.... I am glad to see "Bump to the top" violations being addressed... Some guys were Bumping their ads up every 3-4 days... Aaron - Mohnton, Pa

I want to thank Aaron for the purchase I made... one of many over the years. His integrity is beyond reproach. He is a credit to the strumgewehr community. It's always my pleasure doing b2b with this gentleman. Thank you again. Alan

He is a class act

I'll take a multicam

You are overthinking it - if there is an attached barrel, put that caliber. If there is no barrel (eg RDIAS), put N/A

Thumpy I remember buying those SKS rifles at local gun shows for $69.00 and a case of ammo for another $69.00. I thought they were overpriced at $200. Don't even want to think about all the surplus bolt rifles that sold for well under $50 out of a 50 gallon drum at the sporting goods counter at the local Roses department store when I was a teenager in the late 80's. I am with you on the prices these items are currently demanding and I too have lost some interest in the mil surp stuff as a result. That being said I did drive six hours last week to look at a very nice collection an older gentleman is selling so I guess I have not given up completely.

Great suggestion, thanks for the info. FYI Aaron, the MG60 that you repaired for us is working great with no issues.

Had a C&R MPi69 about 20 years ago, they are really really really sweet shooters!

I'll take the other set please.

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Great idea Aaron. Shipping 2 Thompson 1928s and they stayed in the same location for 4 days (100 miles away) I was concerned and the Air Tags would have helped eleviate my concerns.

In the spirit of the holiday season, perhaps we could just close this thread, rather than attack people trying to help others...

I'll take one. Email invoice and I will send $.

The final rule clarifies that the definition of “machinegun” in the Gun Control Act (GCA) and National Firearms Act (NFA) includes bump-stock-type devices - so it would seem to allow a 07/02 to manufacture one. No sure what the case you are referring to (IL state Police officer). But there were 3 of them in 2006 that were charged, one of whom ILLEGALLY acquired a machine gun (and admitted the same).

This is a daewoo dr200 in the box with original mag, sling, manual. price is 2500.00

My first MG was an Uzi 10+ years ago. He had a Mac for 3.5k and the Uzi for 6.5k. I settled on the uzi and never looked back. The nice thing is that every time I discuss the possibility of adding to the fleet, I show my wife the value of the Uzi today... I know the financial planners will have a field day, but nothing better than being to shoot your investments all the way into retirement. By the way, MGs are like potato chips, eating one is not an option. Congratulations !!!!

(3) Left then we are out

Pretty fuddy. What is the worst thing that could happen? I contest the auction. $5,600 for a FN FAL doesn't seem too bad. I am not new to full auto just to SOT so fuds can cool your jets. I got something I had been looking for; it fell in my lap and I either had to jump on it or pass. I jumped and I got the FN forless than half ($14,000+) one I was bidding on last month ended selling for. Considering I bid $10,000 for it I think I came out ahead.

If your this green to this part of the gun world I’d recommend you stick to big name dealers until you know how to spot bs a filter fake things out.

Without looking at the papers, you're going to have a hard time knowing for certain if it's transferable or a sample. But I can tell you that I've never seen a G1 transferable. Most of the ones in the states are pre-samples. And whoever bought this one got a hell of a deal.

Appreciate the input. My father has all sorts of oddities that will be passed along to us. Quite frankly whatever is passed along will be appreciated. I hope to raise my kids the same way, and if they aren't into any of it. They can dump them when they inherit it. I would agree that for a shooter, it doesn't matter what it says. As long as it's legal. If my father had any MGs, I wouldn't complain what it was. I dipped my toes in yesterday and purchased a M10/45. It's roll marked TX, But from what I can tell it appears to be fully welded. And has intact Cobray Logos (possibly restamped)? Admittedly I probably jumped the gun, but the price was right. If I don't like it, I'll jump on an M11, or the right AR/M16. I'll let you know once I get the approval in a year haha.

Many pay for the privilege of being on strumgewehr.com. That said, one needs to abide by the rules, if not... those that are not obeying the rules brings chaos to the board. If those that bring chaos to the board, don't put to use right action themselves, I support managements obligation to put an end to this bad precedence.The only way to deal with this unacceptable behavior is to bring it to an end. The only other options for them would be to go elsewhere or start there own website. Please correct me if you think I'm wrong... none of these people can justify their actions with a response.

Thanks fellas.... @POLLC My sincere thanks for taking the time to leave such kind feedback... These feedback posts really do make a difference for us sellers. People scouring the internet find our listings but are unsure if we are legit sellers or scammers.... When they find these feedback posts it always helps build confidence.... So thank you again. I appreciate all of your business. Aaron - Mohnton, Pa

get these as well https://www.cryostructure.com/product/bfar-mod1-dias-compatible-purpose-built-ar-15-belt-fed-100-lower-receiver/

This doesn't need a bump but these jigs are perfect.

Product payment request.

You could try punishment rather than just reprimand

Update, the tech I was swapping emails with deleted some duplicate files from the electronic documents train stop so I could upload the second page of the RPQ, all is good now.

I'll Take A Kit for $1,725.00 shipped. I received my kit today and I couldn't be more pleased. I made a partial payment on Saturday afternoon (Zelle had me maxed out at 1K a day) then sent the remainder on Sunday and was astonished to receive the kit on Monday morning. Bassethound went ahead and sent the kit to me before I had even finished paying him and he overnighted it as well. I just wish I had the money to buy the other kit. The bolt is worth the price of the kit by itself. Thanks again ! ! ! ! !

If you're in Mars, we're 2 hours away at Tusco Rifle Club immediately east of Midvale OH. We have a monthly steel shoot April through November which is open to the public and we always have lots of Class 3 stuff show up. The rest of the time the range is members only but there are no restrictions on full-auto and very few on the firearms permitted on some of the ranges. .50 BMG is restricted to 2 ranges and anything bigger to only one. https://www.tuscorifle.org/ If you cannot find anything in the greater PGH area you might consider driving over. And yes Form 20s are a PITA but you can file one for the year.

All woodland pouches SOLD. Still have some multicam

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Bad idea - just use 0.30 Think of it like ordering French Fries @ McDonalds drive thru - you can say whatever you want, but the guy on the other end only had S/M/L buttons on his computer - you can’t order SMLargeish - it’s simply not on the menu…

It will definitely get kicked back if you just leave it empty.

Ill be honest my friend Ive been a dealer 12 years seeing prices fluctuate , at the very top even being "rare" (honestly few care about that when it comes to M10 family) Id price at max 13k ... Just trying to help etc.

Who wants a full auto glock?

Just thought I would share a couple Sturmgewehr.com swag items from the past for those who might not have ever seen them. Enjoy! Jim