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In my experience... The prices you balk at today, you will be glad to pay tomorrow...

A few years ago, I did an article for SAR magazine about "The Good Old Days" of machine gun buying. I think you will find it both interesting and amusing. https://smallarmsreview.com/the-good-old-days-2/ "If M16s were still $500.00 few would be motivated to sell them"

Best to "pre-sell" the post samples before you let your SOT expire.

I bought extractors from Navgunner and they were excellent wire cut and hardened. Best I've seen.

I feel like I need to add my opinion since one or two of these posts are leaning in my direction. When a person prices something it doesnt matter what their cost is in relation to the selling price. Its not greed its market. Do you think that the people that still hold Bitcoin that they bought for fractions of a penny shouldnt sell it for market at 85,000? Is that greed? What about any of us that have property. Should we not sell at the top of the market? The Morphys prices are relevant to the market. It doesnt matter if fees or taxes or anything else is included in the price, thats what someone had to write a check for. Thats the market. There were three (or more) that I recall. Do I think I will get 80 out of mine, no. Would I take 50, no. Mine is a little more unique and I know the provenance behind it. When has any factory original gun been worth the same as a conversion? It doesnt happen with SP1 conversions and M16's or anything else that I am aware of. What about those UZI's? Original guns sell for more. Always. I suspect that someone that got a presample for 50 will probably make some money on that sooner or later. There are tons of speculative ads on these boards. Just scroll through there. Now do I throw out a number to start a conversation, yes. Maybe an offer somewhere in between? And Im not always like that on everything. Why is it OK to lowball a seller than a seller highball a buyer? I think it is believed how fast something sells is relevant to the market price? That just means it was too cheap or the right guy saw it, if it sells quickly. Some people have to sell them. Im not one of those people. The bottom line on mine is I have less in it than some of my semi guns. I dont have to sell it and I am not really motivated to sell it. That may set me apart from others. There are tons of people out there with the disposable cash that would make us all blush. Or maybe the most discriminate person that wants that one gun that is perfect for him? There are plenty of examples that you can think of that someone will buy that seems crazy to us. These discussions on pricing come up all the time through all the years. I have been a dealer for 24 years and never dreamed that things would get to the point they are now. My earliest recollection of HK sears and M16s were in the 4-5,000 range. We all know they started out way below that. Certainly the market has driven those values, so why not now? There are a ton of sales that happen from phone calls versus a "I'll take it" on a board that you never know about. Ruben continually sets the bar and everyone follows. Take a look at his website right now. Are there cheaper guns on the market, yes. But he sells them everyday. It all comes down to the old saying its only worth what someone will pay and that goes for anything. I agree with Frank though. I would gladly give back any money for any machinegun I have ever sold. Thats just my thoughts. Rex

Funny-I’ve called and left messages and sent emails. My contact information is on the GB contact info page. Perhaps your “manager” should forward you the information. I’ve posted all the evidence here, MGB and HKPro asking opinions and everyone says the same, the listing was bogus compared to the end results. The paperwork has been signed at the bank. I also showed all the information to them for trying to contact the “seller” The fact it’s been a week now with no response here, calls, PM’s via GB, or the F rated feedback.

Wasn't this a "bringback"?

Not to mention prices haven’t adjusted back to reality from where they were during Covid. Prices jumped 20%-30% during Covid and they have increased from there as people were betting they’d be good to hedge against inflation….those that did that, drove the high end stuff even higher, causing the lower end stuff to increase. When that happened the buyer pool for lower end ($7.5k-$15k guns) shrank as they were either priced out, or had to use their “play money” to survive on. Now that the high end “investment MG owner” has bought up all he or she wanted, they have stopped buying and the market on the top has flattened off. The rest of the market hasn’t settled back down to reflect this and it’ll take awhile for that to happen. What will also happen is dealers will sit on lower end MG’s vs selling for below the “market price” and things will continue to stay flat for awhile longer. It’ll take something out of Washington to cause another “panic” and things will get stupid once more.

Paid via credit/debit card I believe. I’ll have to go back and look. Pretty sure it was thru the GB cart system. Well if he’s a member I’m sure he will see this then….i mean u could call his other business since he won’t return my calls to the number on the GB contact and FFL search…its amazing how much you can find out with a simple google search.

Hey gents, looking to sell my original pre-May dealer sample stoner model 63A light machine gun. Gun comes with two barrels. It does indeed come with a stock, however the stock broke in shipping sadly. I will have 1 reproduction stock and 1 original non broken one included with this sale. I will indeed have a reproduction that is included and the original broken one that may be fixed. Also included in this is an original stoner model 63A bipod and about 150 links for the stoner. Gun is extremely clean and looks like it was shot very little. Just an outstanding piece, very rare as there are only a handful of these in the registry that are pre-86 dealer sale samples. Barrels are absolutely mint and almost look like they've never been fired either. Tons of grease internally in the action and everything else. Gun was made by Cadillac Gage. This should be a deal given the last transferable one went for over 400k. This is on my books on Form 3 and is ready for e-file. If anyone would like additional pictures, I am more than happy to supply them and send them over. $100,000 plus shipping. This is also on Gunbroker as it is cross posted there as well.

Not taking sides, but I would recommend sending payment with a tracking number - preferably overnight (or at least priority mail) Protects both sides of the deal. There is another thread about 50/50 deals and submitting paperwork before payment in full. Every seller/buyer needs to do what they feel comfortable with. Good luck getting this worked out.

I don't know if my response will be helpful but I'll start with this, it's not just machine guns, it's across the board with everything. I watch a lot of auctions on GB and other sites. Everything is taking a dip right now. A couple of examples... FN FNC rifles in recent times were selling between $6K and $7K regularly. I just watched one end on GB for around $4400. Colt SP1's have taken the same dip. They were selling for $1800 to $2000 for an average model. I just watched a few sell for $1500 and one for $1300. So, it's not just machine guns taking a hit. I watched my stock portfolio take a big hit after the Tariff announcement. It's slowly climbing back up. I'm not worried because all of this is temporary. There's still time to build back up before another administration can move in and once again destroy the best economy this country ever saw. If you aren't in a hurry to sell for a reason then just sit on it until the economy gets better. You'll be glad you did.

I purchased an MP5 parts kit off GB from this seller-here’s the description of the lot: ”Factory HK MP5 submachine gun parts kit, full auto pack!” https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1098427209 Parts arrive and it’s not what they said it was-the receiver parts were HK MP5 but the bolt group was a semi auto MKE bolt group. I called them up and here was the response: “Hello John, I receiver your message from our office manager. After final review of the listing and associated photographs it has been determined that the bolt carrier in the pictures is of the semi auto variant. The listing denotes a full auto trigger pack but not a carrier. the receiver remnant is factory German. The price reflected the kit as is, and would have been more, had this had a full auto carrier. I understand your frustration, yet given the transparency of the listing, and photographs associated, you received everything you purchased. If a full auto carrier is needed we have found them to be available for very little money produced by RCM online. sorry for the apparent misunderstanding, and in the future i would recommend asking questions prior to bidding if you are not entirely sure what is included. Please also respond through Gunbroker for any and all additional question going forward. Our manufacturing Business is not directly involved with online or consignment sales, so this would generate a much faster response. Thankyou, BeltFed Finatic” Talk about a fraud!!! You can barely make out that the carrier was a semi due tot he picture and why would someone even look that close if the listing says “factory HK MP5 submachine gun parts kit” well the parts kit isn’t HK, only part of it is. I’ve already left a negative feed back, as they won’t return a call now, or even pick up and the “much faster response via email” isn’t very fast either. It’s also funny that a quick FFL search shows that the manufacturing facility is a single family house with a detached building, not a big operation like it’s made out to sound like in the email. not impressed by this at all. Giving people a heads up on this seller.

I have been a customer of yours in the past and spoken to many of your customer over the years about the overall wait times to get guns to their local in-State dealers. Ironically I was actually talking to one of your less than pleased customers yesterday who is waiting on an "extended" time period Form 4 approval to MWT. In that discussion yesterday I listed many of these issues you described above that are outside of your control. I mentioned that many of these are probably estate guns, I bet there are correction letters because models and lengths are all messed up from the last transfer in 1989, and you have old people and non-gun people on the other end of the transfer trying to deal with this. Your "seller" is statistically probably an 80 year old widow whose husband is now deceased and she may be dealing with a bunch of different estate issues, not to mention the loss of her husband, and getting a scary looking correction letter from the ATF, demanding her get the gun out and take pictures with a ruler using her jitterbug phone and its just is a mess to deal with. USPS loses stuff both inbound and outbound. Form 4s get misplaced tucked inside a paper TV Guide she still receives in the mail and isn't found until she is looking up when that Matlock rerun comes on, etc. However, I can offer some advice in your business model that may help here based off my personal experience as well as that of others I personally know who have bought dozens of guns from you all over the year. You need to be more transparent with your buyers on the time these paper Individual Seller to MWT Form 4 transfers take and the overall time it takes to get to the gun to their dealer. Telling buyers that Form 4s come back in "30 to 45 days", or that is should be here "soon" or "any day now", etc. just misleads them and makes them angry and come post here when it doesn't happen that way. Sure maybe some of them do come back in a month.....but not all of them. Some of these paper F4s to dealers take 6 months or more just to be approved. On top of that, just because the Form 4 is approved doesn't mean that the seller magically get the approved paper form Form 4 in the mail that day and ships the gun to you pronto. Quite often, it takes up to another month for the approved paper Form 4 to be delivered to the seller and they then have to pack up and ship you the gun. God help you if that paper Form 4 is lost in the mail...as now you are waiting 45 days before the ATF will even accept a certified copy request and then its another month once a certified copy request is submitted and gets back to the seller. In that scenario you could have two months or more just waiting to get a copy of the Form 4 for the seller so they can ship the gun. That's on top of the 6 months the Form 4 approval potentially took. The buddy I talked to yesterday about his extended wait time, I told him once MWT asks for the balance payment (once it shows up in MWTs eForms inventory) set your expectations on 2ish month before the gun gets to your dealer. The seller is going to have to wait for the paper Form 4 to arrive (up to 30 day), pack and ship the gun (another week or more), MWT will have to intake the gun and then repack it and reship it to his dealer (say another week or so). If it all goes swimmingly its maybe 4 weeks to arrive your dealer. Shit goes sideways and USPS loses the approved Form 4... or some other delay than plan on a couple months or more after you pay the balance. You need to give sellers a date the Form 4 went pending with the ATF (meaning it cleared the Oregon bank PO box hurdles) and be very clear that these are paper transactions, that use USPS as the carrier pigeon, and the person on the other end of this transaction may be an 80 year old widow who doesn't know a tape measure from a hammer or an estate attorney who know nothing about machineguns and are slow to mitigate problems that may crop up. Due to all these factor these Form 4 transfers to MWT can potentially take upwards of 9 months to complete and get the gun to their dealer. When people ask me how long does a Form 4 to a dealer take time wise I tell them on average plan for 2 to 9 months in most cases and some small percentage fall outside that range. (a buddy of mine just had one take almost two years with corrections) I know you all are trying to be "efficient" with some of your strategy here but the government doesn't work that way. This is the same government that processes former employee separation papers in an underground mine using reams of paper, wheeled carts and a single elevator to move it all around. Sending in a single payment for multiple transfers is asking for problems. Sending in one set of estate docs for multiple transactions is again asking for problems. Limit the unforced errors on your side even if it means killing a bunch of trees in the process. Its the same deal when I submit 5320.20s for temp moves to a shoot out of State. Sure you can put multiple guns on one form. You know what happens if you do that and they don't like the model name for one gun....all three get disapproved. I always put one gun on one 5320.20. Same with fingerprint cards , checks for tax payments, trust or supporting docs. Can you get away with sending in a single set...sure .sometimes it all goes to plan with one set of docs, payments, etc. What limits the odds of failure, sending in each application to stand on its own merits. I send every application in its own envelope or separate email to NFAFax to maximize my odds because postage and emails are cheap and government employees including the postal service are not great. Again if you are running a business and don't want complaints here about extended wait times put the odds in your favor. Every application you submit needs to stand on its own so when some government employee in WV. or OR. splits up the applications everything else in that batch doesn't end up denied because you were trying to be efficient. I am not posting this to beat you all up and I actually recommend folks buy guns from MWT. However that recommendations always comes with the caveat about the realistic time its going to take for an "incoming" gun they buy to actually get to their dealer. This is especially critical in the days of 24 hour eForm 4 approvals and folks who don't understand the time difference a paper Form 4 takes. Just my two cents anyway.

I have a transferable front site for sale...

Super gray area. My $.02 is that this installation is only allowable by SOT/manufactures to make a post-sample MG. ATF FTB Letter 2009 I spoke to John Kokinis at length back in the day about this and he never would verbally say yes to a civilian owned transferrable pack. Mike Ott argues that the ATF made a determination that HK packs can only go into HK Guns (and their sister clones) and it is verboten into the MGA MK46. I have no dog in this fight, but just beware of what may or may not be cool. You can read since 2009, there has been much discussion on this topic, and still to this day. I have never seen a determination letter posted online from the ATF FTB saying that you can do this. There are others out there saying they have one, which may be a one off for their gun, but if it was ok, why isn't there one out there for everyone to see? https://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1558-wts-belt-fed-mk46-m249-7850-only-one-left/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/MK46-with-registered-HK-triggerpack/22-520863/

Just a friendly FYI: You would be more likely to get more quality replies and assistance if you proofread and corrected your typos. Your posts looks like something written by a "Nigerian Prince" looking for someone to help them cash a check. It scares people off.

Transfer can be cancelled as long as the transferee hasn't taken possession of the firearm. I quit doing 50/50 payments, too many customers back out of the deal, and I have heard every excuse you could imagine.

Wouldn't you just void the form 4? I remember reading about the procedure last year.

Prices are down 10-15% from their highs. Most sellers are asking 10-20% too much and many won’t budge $1 . They are waiting for a sucker to come along. Big dealers rely on those suckers. They hold guns for 6-24 months to sell them. Price a gun right and it sells fast People are greedy

German Pre Ban Heckler & Koch HK 93 A3 Retractable Stock with 17 barrel Mfg 1981 in excellent condition and the firearm appears to be unfired. Original finish, all correct, no rust or pitting on metal, no cracks on plastic, perfect bore. (1) 40rds magazine (1) Steel Hk bipod (1) Hk bayonet. No box nor paper work.$4600.00 shipped and insured for $500 buyer covers additional insurance. Postal mo’s, Paypal f&f accepted forms of payment or wire transferred funds* *Cross posted on other boards*

My apologies for asking for a pic of the ID/serial! I scanned by without seeing the pic you posted of the ID/serial and after just seeing it, the gun appears correct to me and to be a legitimate C+R converted from a 1917 example. Over the years I've owned half a dozen C+R '17a1's and am very familiar with them. Still have one as well as a C+R Colt '17. Been one of my favorite MGs since I was kid in the mid 1950's and saw them on TV! good luck with the sale.....

COLT A/R-15 9mm with H&R DOE style upper and 2 Colt (32rd) mags (1 new 1 used) NOT a factory SBR. Threaded 7.5" barrel. 25" overall length As new/unfired condition $1950 including insured shipping NFA item - will transfer via E-Form 3 PM for more details/to purchase.

Seconds if buyer backs out

ONLY 1 LEFT IN STOCK! SOLD OUT! We have more coming. Contact us to preorder and secure yours. Hot and back in stock! These are B&T imported Austrian Glocks that have been modified by B&T with their low mount ACRO cut and slide lock for maximum suppression through the wiped Hush Puppy can. Priced at $2940 shipped, we can take cards for +3%. Sales tax charged to GA and AL. From B&T: The Hush Puppy Glock 19X is the extended capacity variant of the original Glock 19 Hush Puppy. Both models offer a purpose-built combination pistol/suppressor system. For those familiar with the original Welrod pistol—and B&T’s own VP9 and Station Six pistols—the Hush Puppy Glock 19X is the latest iteration of a pistol destined to fulfill highly specialized mission sets. Where the Hush Puppy differs from bolt-action pistols is in its semiautomatic functionality, red-dot capability and LAM mounting options. With the flip of a switch, operators can lock the pistol’s slide closed for the lowest sound signature possible, while also preventing the ejection of a spent case. Flip the switch upward and the pistol is a fully functional semiautomatic Glock 19X. The Hush Puppy comes complete with an Aimpoint ACRO P-2 red-dot sight milled deep within the pistol’s slide. This mounting design minimizes the gun’s overall profile and allows it to co-witness with factory low-mount sights for an exceptionally streamlined package. With the suppressor attached, the pistol is slightly longer than a Glock 34, allowing it to be easily concealed AIWB, IWB, or OWB, as well as carried off body. The unique Hush Puppy suppressor is designed to meet the demands of those requiring a concealable 9mm suppressor that offers an excellent sound reduction to size ratio. At just 3 inches in length, the Hush Puppy suppressor does not require a booster or Impuls device to function reliably, and it utilizes user-replaceable wipes for the greatest level of performance possible in such a small package. Ablative material can be added between the wipes to further increase this suppressor’s performance, should the user require it. Includes: • All-inclusive Hush Puppy® Glock 19X package • Custom FDE hardcase with laser-cut foam interior • 100 rounds of 147-grain Hush Puppy® ammunition • Concealable wipe suppressor • FDE Aimpoint® ACRO P-2 (milled 4mm deeper than MOS) • Hush Puppy® slide-locking feature

I think you missed the point. It sounds like your wife was willing to allocate the money for a new car because she is embarrassed for you to be seen driving around in an old 1993 Jeep. If you spent that money on the new Jeep, her status would improve. If you spent that money on a M16, not only does that not improve her status, it's most likely an embarrassment that she prefers to keep secret.

......or, don't sell stuff you don't have or can't afford to buy for inventory. Problems solved.

Thank YOU, Jeff...again, we pride ourselves on taking care of our customers, like you....we are SO blessed to be able to work with and to know as friends all the people we get to work with. Class 3 people are the BEST people...everything that makes this Country so great.

Bump - still available.

Was finally able to get mine out of the safe today. From my Fruithurst, AL MK 760 Bolt 1.125 dia Receiver 1.149 land Receiver 1.175 groove From my Panama City, FL 76A1 Bolt 1.115 dia Receiver 1.150 land Receiver 1.172 groove Measurements were taken several times with my Brown & Sharpe calipers so they're pretty accurate. It just occurred to me that I've never tried swapping parts between the two guns. Might be interesting to see if the bolts will function in the other gun.

This is a Keosayian M16. Most are locked away in collections. You don't see these in the wild much anymore.

Colt M16-A1 is in excellent condition. It’s on a form 3 ready to transfer to your dealer. I have been a class 3 dealer for over 30 years. Buy with confidence, - Price is $38,000. This includes shipping and insurance. Message me if interested. Steve Jenkins Automatic Arms Class 3 Dealer for 32 Years Contact me at Steve223Jenkins@yahoo.com

Hi All, The thread is a little stale but here's my $.02 worth: Put it in writing. Make sure both parties understand the transaction and try to cover likely contingencies. I do 50/50 all the time. Even 0/100 for friends. For the buyer it makes sure the seller submits the transfer. It also reduces the exposure of the buyer. For new buyers sending funds of significant value is something they are not accustom to. As the seller I also write up (in the terms of sale) a penalty for failure to pay the balance within XX days of notification that the transfer has been approved by BATF. I've also added weasel clauses for death (of either party) or bonafied loss of employment. Back to the OP - As others have mentioned: if the physical transfer of the firearm has not taken place the seller can cancel the transfer. I've done it several times. I don't give a reason for the void of the transfer. The $200 goes back to whoever payed the tax. Enjoy, Grasshopper

On a form 4 Cheapest belt fed you can find. Come with a cloth belt and a repop drum. Chambered in 8mm mouser. 107 years old It’s a parts kit gun put together on a registered side plate, built by Bob Landies of Ohio Ordnance Works. Manufacture is listed as Maxim Germany. Model is MG08. asking $9950 text me 502-541-3919

Gunbroker has been that way for years they could care less about customer issues. They are just about collecting fees and making money

This is truly a great gun! It was built using a factory HK21E post sample that was sent to Mike of Michaels Machines fully intact and then it was carefully taken apart and put back together on a HK91 receiver. No cut and re-welded rails, no cut and re-welded shroud, or aftermarket weldments. This gun is absolutely beautiful and is as close to a factory gun as you can possibly get. If you have or are thinking about buying a registered sear this is a must have in your collection! The HK21E is one of the best belt fed GPMG's ever developed by HK with the modularity of each component such as the feed mechanism, bolt carrier assembly, trigger packs and barrels the gun can be configured as a 7.62x51mm or a 5.56mm. This one has the M13 bolt assembly that uses the standard M60 style M13 disintegrating links instead of the metal belts. The buyer of this HK21E will have the opportunity to purchase a 23E conversion kit ( feed mechanism, bolt carrier assembly and barrel ) if they choose to do so. This HK21E has been test fired with a sear pack and it runs great. The accuracy of a 21E is unbelievable as it is a heavy free floated barrel and if you mount a scope on it you will be impressed how accurate this belt fed actually can be! Don't let this Beautiful HK21E get away from you or your collection! To purchase this gun, you must message me though the board here or contact me through our web site email: gunbroker@HighEndArms.Com We must talk via voice to make any arrangement. Do not wire or send any funds without calling the number you receive by contacting me through this site or via the above email. Pay close attention to that email address as scammers make emails that look similar. Our business is in Tulsa Oklahoma, I am in Tulsa Oklahoma, and our bank is a locally owned bank in Tulsa Oklahoma. PRICE: 75K plus shipping-SPF

Exactly what I was looking for! I'll take one please.

You can always cancel as long as they haven’t picked the weapon up. Just call the atf as said above. 50/50 deals now adays I feel like are based on reputation. I’ve bought and sold a few guns like that. Every gun I’ve ever bought like that I was told “50% is non refundable” etc if the gun is “incoming on a form 4” it may take several months so I still think 50/50 deals have there place. I’ve sold guns like that to people I know / have mutual friends etc The NFA world is a small place the machine gun world is even smaller so always ask around chances are you know some one who knows them.

Hello fellow comrades!! Awe…. You all are discussing the inevitable points of capitalism and consumerism…. You have to keep capitalising on making more capital…. You eventually are consumed by consumerism…. At the end of the day, you can be a shooter of machine guns or in investor of machine guns…. You can not be both…. Eventually one person will extinguish the other…. Even though capitalism is the best system, it is still a flawed system because it involves people who are all imperfect and flawed…. Just remember one thing…. GREEDY WESTERNS!! THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE MONEY!!

This factory HK G3 was imported in June of 1965. It was on display for a time period in the H&R Museum where it resided. It was purchased from the museum as a transferable machine gun. It is NOT a "flipped" Pre-May or conversion. This is a factory transferable that was brought into the country prior to 1968 as a transferable. This is the "Holy Grail" of HK G3's for the collector. It is a beautiful gun with it's original finish in excellent condition. The machine gun comes with a binder containing documents provided in response to FOIA request that show importation and transfers of the gun. To purchase this gun, you must message me though the board here or contact me through our web site email: gunbroker@HighEndArms.Com We must talk via voice to make any arrangement. Do not wire or send any funds without calling the number you receive by contacting me through this site or via the above email. Pay close attention to that email address as scammers make emails that look similar. Our business is in Tulsa Oklahoma, I am in Tulsa Oklahoma, and our bank is a locally owned bank in Tulsa Oklahoma. PRICE: 50K plus shipping-SPF

I am brokering an Auto Ordnance M1A1 Thompson 45ACP. Gun is in excellent condition. Form 4 in NV. Price $36k. First tax stamp to your dealer out of state is paid. Shipping is extra. Reasonable offers are considered. Call or txt to ask questions or make an offer at 702-883-6340. P. Ziros

Available are several brand new old stock pkm 100 round assault cans w/ links. 235 each plus actual shipped. Many different forms of payment accepted.

The other thing with people listing MG’s at “auction house prices” is they only see the hammer price and don’t take into account the 20% sellers fee and the 1099 to pay tax on it….those $70k-$80k numbers disappear really quick and you are left with a number closer to that $50k all said and done. You are correct in saying that the Mg hobby is being driven by greed. In many cases people have penny’s on the dollar in something but demand top of the market plus 20%

Also have some M397 he used components for your collection if your interested in them. Some are dud (uxo) that have been made inert. Some are exploded parts for study etc. let me know if you’re interested. I will post a picture.

"Factory HK MP5 submachine gun parts kit, full auto pack!" "The listing denotes a full auto trigger pack but not a carrier. the receiver remnant is factory German. The price reflected the kit as is, and would have been more, had this had a full auto carrier." That's a pretty lousy move right there. Blame the buyer because you can't provide an accurate description of the merchandise? My philosophy has always been: Seller: provide the merchandise described at the agreed upon price Buyer: provide agreed upon funds in a timely manner Both: take responsibility for any mistake on your part and rectify it to the best of your ability This seller appears to break points 1 & 3.

The sellers handle here on Sturm is Brennon272 so proceed with caution. Maybe he will respond here or try to blow me off again with a lame excuse? This thread has been cross posted on MGB and HKPro as well….funny everyone has the same response….that I’m right and he’s a scammer

I have a new factory FN P90 Slant Bird Cage Flash Hider M12 x 1 LH threads. I accept Money Orders, Personal & Certified Checks, Discreet PayPal (Friend Pay). Please Email Me For Photo: walterf.adams@gmail.com Asking $150 shipped Sold To: SASC

There’s not much value in the AUG latch or ps90 disco, given that any 07/02 can pretty easily make their own. Especially with the Aug, which needs the stock, trigger pack, and bolt group to really do anything. Your best bet is to use Gunbroker with a low start, no reserve auction. If you don’t have an account on GB, you can also ask Sienna Guns if he’d consign your items. He sells a number of no letter post samples there.

I would guess 500-1000ea for just those parts.

I think good communication and clear expectations are important for both buyer and seller. Lots of deals get done by text, with no contract other than "I'll take it". While there is nothing wrong with doing business this way, it can be problematic. What one person sees as reasonable, the other party may not. Things should be spelled out clearly in some sort of written contract, which can be as simple as an email. My pet peeve is those who go silent. If I send you a check for $20k, you better respond to my email or text or phone message in a prompt manner. If not, I will not do business with you again. That's just me - I treat my customers the way I would like to be treated - and update them every step of the process. I don't think it's too much to ask for a seller to do this, but there are a lot of crusty old timers who would disagree. I can't think of any other business where people (sellers) are so bad at keeping their customers informed. When 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars are involved, it's basic customer service (and common courtesy) to do this.