Jtm35a2 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 I have bought a M2 carbine registered trigger pack made by armitage ltd. Seller says it is a transferrable. The paper form 3 says it’s an imported dealer sample, my eform account says it’s a post 86 dealer sample. Anyone have information on the timeline for Armitage ltd doing business. It would be nice to rule out the possibility of dealer sample by age. If I am correct, them transferring a post 86 dealer sample to me is illegal, unless the seller is covertly surrendering his sot. Can a 01 even get dealer samples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) What city is marked on the trigger pack and/or shown on the Form 3? Any other markings on the pack? Did they use what looks like a date as the serial number? There was a Armitage International Ltd. in Seneca, South Carolina until about 1990 according to what I have found online. It looks like the trail goes cold after about 1990. Can you post pictures with the serial number blacked out? Edited September 22, 2023 by MontanaRenegade86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm35a2 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Ok, so atf fixed it amazingly fast. I sent an email about 11:00 pm last night. By 9:30 this morning I got a simple, but sweet reply that stated “corrected”. Sure enough, it’s now white in my eform inventory! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Jtm35a2 said: Ok, so atf fixed it amazingly fast. I sent an email about 11:00 pm last night. By 9:30 this morning I got a simple, but sweet reply that stated “corrected”. Sure enough, it’s now white in my eform inventory! Good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 5:40 PM, Jtm35a2 said: Ok, so atf fixed it amazingly fast. I sent an email about 11:00 pm last night. By 9:30 this morning I got a simple, but sweet reply that stated “corrected”. Sure enough, it’s now white in my eform inventory! What is the email address you used? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGG Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Armitage International- 1707 Blue Ridge Boulevard, Seneca, South Carolina, 29672; 1635-A Blue Ridge Boulevard, Seneca, South Carolina, 29678 - incorporation date (05-24-88) - dissolution date (01-19-00) Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm35a2 Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, AGG said: Armitage International- 1707 Blue Ridge Boulevard, Seneca, South Carolina, 29672; 1635-A Blue Ridge Boulevard, Seneca, South Carolina, 29678 - incorporation date (05-24-88) - dissolution date (01-19-00) Tony Well that’s a wide enough year range to include post 86 dealer samples only. Wonder how i ended up with a transferrable ….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickStand Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) I’d suggest doing a FOIA request. I’m not sure how it could be a transferable (non dealer sample) if the company started business post 86. If that’s the case, it’ll likely be caught down the road. It’s happened to a few people. Furthermore, the registry has so many errors and to make it more complicated, M1/M2 carbines and all of their registered parts makes it one of the worst with things that could’ve been registered. Edited September 24, 2023 by KickStand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm35a2 Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, KickStand said: I’d suggest doing a FOIA request. I’m not sure how it could be a transferable (non dealer sample) if the company started business post 86. If that’s the case, it’ll likely be caught down the road. It’s happened to a few people. Furthermore, the registry has so many errors and to make it more complicated, M1/M2 carbines and all of their registered parts makes it one of the worst with things that could’ve been registered. You would think that the atf resists making changes from non to transferrable on just my word. Surely she had a reason to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 11:04 AM, Jtm35a2 said: You would think that the atf resists making changes from non to transferrable on just my word. Surely she had a reason to do so. What I do know is that the owner of Armitage was pissing off anti-gun "journalists" in August of 1986. The nerve of this guy...selling legal gun parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm35a2 Posted September 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 I am guessing like a lot of sot’s. Several licenses under new versions of their trade name over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flathead26t Posted September 28, 2023 Report Share Posted September 28, 2023 I have a transferable PPS50 made by Armitage International LTD of Westminster SC. It is marked as A.I. LTD on the gun. I have seen a few other guns marked this way by them as well, m16, stoner 63a, m10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta-10 Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 I've got a Valmet M78 7.62x39 made by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGG Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Delta-10 said: I've got a Valmet M78 7.62x39 made by them. Excellent--- I have only seen these conversions: Armitag (Madill, Oklahoma) Ciener Cromwell Dillon Precision Products Group Industries Hard Times Armory Oumack/Burton/Heddich Pearl Manufacturing Corp. PHX Arms, Inc. Qualified Manufacturing SAS Neal Smith Is yours an Armitag, or Armitage (easily confused)? PM to you. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGG Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 EDIT No Armitag--- Armitage confirmed. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) On 9/23/2023 at 5:53 PM, Colt Chopper said: What is the email address you used? Thanks Would still like to know the email address you used to get a response. Thanks Edited October 3, 2023 by Colt Chopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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