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You should file a F4 from your trust directly to the out of state FFL/SOT. No reason to add an additional transfer to your local FFL/SOT…
btw, you can’t efile this
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Yep, You got it Ted.
The two pass-thru tax free Form3 DD transfers per year is at ATF’s discretion where there are no local type 9 FFLs (dealer in DDs) who will deal with the public local to the transferee. If they say no, transfer can still be done, but it is on a taxed F4.
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4 hours ago, JM in La. said:Use a different dealer in the future!
Yep - Their license, their rules...
Also not uncommon to be unwilling to send guns out for work with a pending F4.
Believe it or not, many (most) FFL/SOTs are not very familiar with MGs and they don't want to take any risks...
1 hour ago, Bill in Bama said:There are no markings on this, no serial number, nothing. I'll see if I can post a pic.
If no markings, not a firearm
FWIW, it is not uncommon for NFA aware people to register 37mm launchers as DDs so they can shoot anti-personal rounds out of them legally
Fwiw, if the 37mm barrel was added afterwards to a bare receiver, it can still be a title-1 (non-NFA) firearm. There are also 37mm launchers registered as DDs.
bare receiver - title I firearm
Receiver with 40mm barrel - NFA DD
receiver with 37mm barrel - maybe not a firearm, maybe title I, maybe NFA DD
If estate has other NFA stuff, it may be registered as a DD - look if it has a maker’s mark engraved on it (that would be the tell if it is a legal DD)
Heavily modified dshk into sniper rifle?
you ever figure out what your springs fit?
07/02
Look at NFA Form2 Item #12a (Definition 1c)
1c Firearm
The term "firearm" means: (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 5845(e); (6) a machinegun; (7) a muffler or silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included within this definition; and (8) a destructive device.
Those definitions do not provide a way to register a SBR conversion device. They do provide a way to register MG, AOW, and DD (conversion) devices
SBD - Hope it is clear there is no such thing as a legal AR15 SBR conversion device that can be moved between receivers. You need to register each AR15 receiver that you plan to configure as a SBR.
There are two items that would achieve your “swapable” AR15 pistol to “SBR” objective; however, they are machine gun conversion devices (RDIAS & Lightning Link). Transferable ones sell for considerable sums….
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Assuming you are a non-licensee, My guess is to what “possibly” is about would be manufacture yourself a bunch of AR15 receivers (not purchased) with the same SN. NFA Register the SN and mark a barrel with your info.
Legal? Lol, I’d consult a criminal attrny before proceeding…
A SBR can be marked with your info on the barrel rather than the receiver, but the receiver is what is actually registered and the SN must be on the receiver.
A barrel itself cannot be registered as an NFA SBR conversion device.
Read section 7
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-atf-p-53208/download
You and the seller both sound like reasonable folks. Hopefully the F3 goes through in the next few weeks.
Odd the FFL/SOT isn't using electronic Form3s for a super simple/quick turnaround...
Sometimes things go sideways on an NFA transfer despite everyone's best intensions (e.g. lost form, unexpected BATFE delay/rejection, item lost/damaged in mail, etc).
I'm sure the seller feels pretty bad about the situation, but sounds like he has minimal juice with his local FFL/SOT (The SOT isn't going to be highly motivated by just a transfer fee).
There is little the seller can personally do to make things right other that offering a full refund.
Talk to the seller. I'd just pick a reasonable date a few months in the future & get a full refund if it doesn't clear by then.
-- Matt
No, a stock cannot be registered as an SBR conversion device.
You need to register an actual receiver
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There is no way to know 100% for certain from just looking at the current paper forms.
There are dealer-samples last transferred on un-marked F3s/F4s forms and there are even some
guns have even been re-classified as post samples still in possession of the current owner
(allowed to keep possession, but next transfer must be proper). Only way to know for certain is to do a transfer
to a non-licensee/non-sot on a F4 as it will be rechecked...
I supposed an NFA-savvy attorney with the proper contacts @ BATFE could propose a hypothetical transfer and get a hypothetical answer...
I'll take a set of 5
-- Matt
Looks like a 1919a4 bolt spring to me
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On 10/8/2021 at 0:09 PM, Ryo said:I saw it (Dillon blue) but what is it for?
That Blue box thing is a speed loader for AM180 drums that was made by M60Joe... btw, There is a 2nd piece to the m60joe am180 loader which is a metal lazy Susan bearing that holds a drum - this part is also in the picture (upper left partially under buttstock)
haha - good one Buddy
10 hours ago, Aaron in Mohnton Pa said:I think those crates are British or South African. I have a few here. I love them... makes carrying ammo around easy. There was a article I read a few years back about how that massive load of South African Ammo (Made in 1980s) was allegedly stolen (or improperly obtained from the South African Government) and imported into the United States in the 1990s... pretty interesting read...
Hi Aaron,
If you ever find/see that link again post it up - def sounds like an interesting read!
One option for those unable to use USPO (or local gun store) for shipping handguns:
Fwiw, You can also use a bonded courier/freight service - sometimes that makes sense for big stuff.
1 minute ago, Got Uzi said:Wonder if it’s the same type of approval from ATF that SB Tactical had.....lol
Or like the approved/unapproved Tommy Built T36...
Some of the last Saco Defense M60s off the line - Photo heavy
in NFA / Semi Forum
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Wow - wow - WOW!!! You come across the most amazing stuff!
Those really are some rare/cool M60 items - never seen a few of those parts before.
Agree- the prototype stamped topcover is super cool (looks like a prototype feed cam in it as well).
I've got one of those heavy sustained fire barrels in my collection - great to have these associated pics for reference.
As always, an awesome stuff - Thanks for sharing those pics!!!