Navgunner

Fantastic product; I love mine.

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Thank you, @Thumpy . Richard’s passing was a tragedy. He helped so many people and was an absolute pleasure to speak with on the phone. I’ve never seen a man so generous with his time and willingness to share his knowledge.

100% transparency… I didn’t buy a single one because I’ve already got a little stockpile myself. I’m embarrassed to admit it but I was buying them at Tulsa’s big gunshow for $60-$100 a set. I really had to resist the urge at 25 bucks though.

Do me a favor, if you bought some “like” the original post. I’m trying to get a count and boost my reputation at the same time.

As of the minute (5:23PM CST 8/31/23) DSA has UZI extractors in stock for $25! I am not in any way affiliated with them, just sending the word out since they seem to be like hen’s teeth lately.

I received a PM with an old link to BWE's website. Richard was selling them for $280 when he had them in stock, but I can't let mine go for that price. I was hoping that they'd be worth a bit more than that considering the effort that goes into cutting that inside radius of the bolt, it's hardened steel and really tough to cut (eats up carbide). With $280 as a benchmark, I going to keep these. I'm withdrawing my interest in selling. @Buddy H if you feel it's appropriate, please close this thread. Otherwise, it may still be useful for others to continue their discussions.

Apparently, there's demand. What's a fair price? Anyone know?

Is there any known demand for clearanced UZI bolts? These are the ones that were made for IMI guns that were converted to MGs by having the blocking bar removed but still have the barrel restrictor ring. I think that I may have a couple of old ones still in storage so I was wondering if they were worth finding. Any idea what they go for? Edit 8/31/23 I'm no longer interested in selling.

@duza9999, thank you so much for sharing! There's a lot that goes into this stuff, so I'll take all of the advice that's offered. I need your help, please explain how having a Type 03 – Collector of Curios and Relics license will make getting replacement parts for the FNC easier? Full disclosure, I'm not a C&R holder. I don't believe that the removal of the importability restriction with respect to the sporting clause for C&R firearms helps us. It's exciting to think that a C&R holders could get a fresh SA variant of the FNC imported here into the USA but unfortunately, no one really knows just how many of those SAs were made globally (my bet is very, very few as defined by our NFA). Previously, my thought (hope really) was that foreign MGs could be demilled to US standards (since they're still prohibited under the GCA & FOPA) and then imported into the US as parts kits. I'm actually very surprised that it hasn't happened yet since Indonesia and Belgium both abandoning their production of the FNC back in the early to mid 2000s. Now with 20 years passing and Belgium recently sending much of their FNC surplus to Ukraine as military aid, US citizens may never see parts kits. I think that FNC owners have waited long enough for spare bolts and the stigma of the FNC being a lower-class transferable MG since replacement parts are "unobtanium" (especially critical components like the bolt) needs to end. Hopefully our community supports my efforts and that this project gains enough steam to warrant at least one production run. Regardless, I'm making at least one for myself since I'm already investing in the engineering work.

Please find below my most recent post on UziTalk. I’m cross posting it here as it should explain a little bit of my thought-process/motivation and provide a bit of an update too. Thank you very much to all of you who have expressed interest via PMs! This helps me a ton because I really need to get enough interest to justify kicking-off production which is 40+ bolts. Regardless, I’ve already invested in model files and drawings. So if I don’t get enough interest just yet, we can reassess at a later date. My “knowns”: There’s NOT a one-size-fits-all bolt; period. However, most (if not all) of the FNCs that were imported into the US prior to the ban can be made to function to factory standards with a new bolt like the one that I’m making (a mirror copy of my factory bolt). Changing your bolt will absolutely require a headspace check and it’s more than highly likely that your gun will require a headspace adjustment by a gunsmith who’s well versed in the FNC rifle. Heck… you’ll probably need a new barrel installed but that’s ok. I’m not making these bolts to be used in some sort if rotation, but rather as an alternative if truly needed, where more than likely the original bolt failed or is outright missing. Insurance if you will. As of today, there are an estimated 6,500 FNC’s here in the United States and based on direct conversations that personally I’ve had with the people in the know, there are about 3,600 versions that are transferable with the average MG FNC hovering around the $20,000 mark. Let’s be real honest with one another… If we’re going to keep these things going for generations to come, we’re gonna have to get creative and find a solution for spare parts. I’m just acting on it by literally putting my tens of thousands of dollars towards the effort with absolutely no guarantee of any return on investment. For those living outside the US, I can’t export these things even if I wanted to, so I’m not factoring your rifles or other variants into my equation. I’m only focusing on those 3,600 individuals here fortunate enough to own a transferable FNC. Of those very few people I’m guessing that just a few percent will actually want one of these things but that’s OK because they’ll exist as an opportunity to feel more comfortable about shooting your guns knowing that there’s at least one option out there if something were to go wrong. Below is a project update (part of this is an excerpt from a PM that I wrote to a Sturm member): I've already sent out my bolt for 3D scanning which should be done in 4-6 weeks, prints will get their initial tolerancing shortly thereafter. Once all the above is complete, I can start producing/refining (iterative process) the first article samples until I get a version that's appropriate for production. If all of this goes well, and there's at least enough demand to sell an initial production run of 40+ units then I'll kickoff sales. Unfortunately, there's still a lot that can postpone or even kill the project so... fingers crossed.

I've officially kicked off the engineering side of domestic FN FNC bolt manufacture. Just like the S&W 76 extractors that I made; I'm needed your help gaging interest to determine how many to produce. I estimate these to sell for $650 each. Based on that little bit of information I plan only producing just enough bolts to meet demand, with priority being given to those willing to place pre-orders which won't start until we have a qualified production-intent first article sample done and fully tested (November timeframe). PM me if you are interested. No formal commitment at this point. February 21st ,2024 UPDATE: It's official, I'm now taking preorders for domestically manufactured FN FNC bolts!! Pre-orders will last ~70 days then I'm submitting my production order. Individuals that have their deposits PAID before May 1st, 2024, are guaranteed delivery and initial pricing. Afterwards, on-hand sock will be very limited and sold at a "first come, first served" basis (at a higher cost too). Please be aware that production will take upwards of 16-weeks but I'm personally guaranteeing your deposits. I will do my very best to reach out to individuals that have already expressed interest but please don't wait for me. If you want to be included, then please be proactive. The pricing came in lower than I expected. Pre-order cost is $450 (each set) for what's described in the "What's included" list below. Deposits are a minimum of half upfront payment. PM me on how to submit your payment. What's included (one each): p/n: 442; Extractor Spring p/n: 444; Extractor Retaining Spring p/n: 445; Pin, Extractor, Inner p/n: 446; Bolt 3D printed bench-block for extractor installation. What's missing (contact member @fuatos): p/n: 441; Extractor p/n: 443; Extractor Spring Guide Additional information: Please read the entire thread above to best understand what you're getting! Headspace will be required (by a qualified gunsmith) which may include a barrel replacement!! If you don't understand what this entails, then please pass. This is serious and could lead to damage to life and property! *Cross posted on UT.

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I finally took some pictures

I am considering selling my used LE SIG 516 piston upper, factory 10.5” which comes with a very rare full-auto bolt carrier. $775 which includes shipping. This is a great looking, hard to find part that runs perfectly and looks great. I’m not in a hurry to sell, but if you’re interested, let me know and I’ll send pictures.

As an individual, I have personally transferred NFA items to out-of-state SOT holders without using an in-state intermediary.

The form4 accounts for the redacted information where on the CLEO's copy it removes the Firearm's Serial Number, your Social Security Number, and Your Picture. Remember, if you choose to file as a Trust, then you'll need to add a Responsible Persons form too (ATF Form 5320.23 Revised January 2023) but this form also removes that same information (firearm's s/n, SSN, Picture) from going to the CLEO. 11-13 refers to page numbers.

@deputydawg223 If selling to a dealer, that STO holder usually handles the paperwork but they’ll still need your signatures. for selling direct to a private party: yes, you should print on both sides of the paper (called duplex printing) but please remember that you need to submit the document in duplicate to the ATF. Also, make sure that you’re using the most current revision of the “Form 4” which is ATF Form 5320.4 Revised November 2022. On that form you’ll print one copy for the ATF (pages 1-3), plus one copy that’s a “return to registrant” (pages 8-10) both of these copies go to the Feds Then you need one (slightly redacted) copy to the CLEO (pages 11-13).

Here’s McMaster Carr’s offering which is probably the best screw available for these grips but unfortunately you have to buy at least 50 so you’re looking at ~$20 shipped. Their part number is in the lower right hand corner.

I posted the message below on UziTalk but wanted to also post it here so Sturm members could have the information too. The screws that came with these grips are way too soft but fortunately the over-molded nuts (these are melted into the plastic) seem to be of a higher quality, so that’s good. See the pictures below for what I bought at Ace Hardware but know that these are stainless steel so they’re not gonna blend in to the black grip. If you want to find a fastener that’s black in color you may have to search McMaster Carr. What you’re looking for is a “M3 x 0.5 x 25” but make sure that the head of the screw is no more than 6.5 mm wide so that it fits in the recess of the grip handle. Please note that the original screws are a little bit longer at 27mm but I found that extra 2mm is not necessary. Honestly, if you get too long you’re going to end up sticking out the other end, especially on the bottom screw slot.

Valid point. Thank you

Does anyone know where I can buy or even rent/ borrow UZI alignment tools (my preference is to buy my own set to keep) I'm really interested in D&D Sales' kit that he was last selling in the early 2000's. Any information would help me tremendously. I'm listing this here on the forum side of the board because if there's truly nothing out there, but there's adequate demand then I may engineer/manufacture something to peddle here on the board. Let me know what y'all think. Thank you Strum community! -Navgunner

@Buddy H please close this thread, sir. , Thank you! I found everything that I need so now it's on to finding some alignment tools to help me with the welding process.

I'm looking for the parts listed below, hoping that someone here has all of these available together as a kit. I've got a Group Industries UZI receiver that I'm going to build up as a host for a registered bolt. I have no desire to harvest these parts from a de-milled kit. Thank you!! Sounds silly but I'd like to gold plate or polished TiN this one as a flashy MG shooter. I have a very good friend that did a McKay in chrome that came out beautifully, so I've got the bug now. front trunnion (S/A) front handguard post (bayonet lug) grip frame lug (prefer 8mm) rear handguard post blocking bar back plate feed ramp (S/A) rear sight base front sight base sling swivel (with rivet)

It is the same (personal experience)