Josey Wales Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) These scopes were made on contract for H&K by Hensoldt/Zeiss. They are not the same as the Bundeswehr contract G3 scopes. Here's a tutorial I wrote a while back....... "A word about fakes. There are a couple of ebay sellers based in Germany who have for years been selling BW surplus Z24 scopes that they have "tailored" to the American market, and they made a lot of money ripping people off. Here's how to tell what you're looking at. All of the BW surplus scopes are marked "Fero-Z24" at the rear of the tube. If it has this marking, it is a surplus scope and the BDC is set up for 7.62. The scopes that H&K ordered to be supplied with the 33E or the MP5/MP5k do not have this marking, only a 6 digit serial number. The 33E scopes are marked "0.5" beneath the serial number, MP5/MP5K scopes are marked "0.25". Surplus BW scopes have no similar marking underneath the serial number. The BW scopes are not originally marked for caliber and there is more than enough space on the ring to add ".223", which is what these two sellers did. Fake .223 turret rings have also been made. America does .223, not so much the rest of the world or foreign mil/LE buyers. A real 5.56 scope will be marked "5.56 NATO", not ".223". For the faked 9mm models the BDC markings of course could not be remotely similar, so they had new turret caps made to simulate the correct markings, but they marked them "9mm Nato". A real MP5/MP5k scope will be marked "9 NATO". A real MP5SD scope will be marked " 9 SD". Last of all, BW surplus scopes I have seen have flat head tapered screws to attach to the mount, real 33E and MP5/MP5K have dome head screws." **** This MP5/MP5K scope is the last one of the case I imported 6-7 years ago. There are no more over there to be imported. The SD scope was obtained from Australia. Payment by USPS M.O, Cashiers Check, or Zelle. 1) MP5/MP5K NOS $1595.00/shipped 2) MP5SD As new $1895.00/shipped 3) Sterling SMG magazines $40 plus shipping. Half the price of NIW, these surplus Sterling magazines have been disassembled, degreased, and the body and floor plate refinished with Automotive enamel. They look great! Slightly lubed and reassembled. H&K 21/23 series Machine Gun Parts, Factory NOS. Some are not available anywhere else. I have no other H&K 21/23 series parts. None. "Out of Stock" for this stuff is permanent, not something "Parts.net" can restock on. Last chance.....All prices plus shipping. H&K 23E Extractor $89.95 (9) Extractor/Pin/Spring set $149.95 (8) Firing Pin $159.95 (1) Firing Pin/Spring set $178.95 (1) H&K 21E Extractor Spring $49.95 (1) Extractor/Pin/Spring set $189.95 (2) Edited May 19, 2022 by Josey Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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