MNWalther Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Waiting on a call back from an ATF examiner to confirm this, but in looking at the regs I believe I understand it. Having a valid C&R license you can take a C&R machine gun across state lines without having to file form 5320.20, assuming that the machine gun is legal in that state. Does anyone have any experience with this? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Your understanding of the regs is correct. Page 82, section 13.8 of the ATF NFA Handbook has what you’re looking for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNWalther Posted June 7 Author Report Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, tommyboy said: Your understanding of the regs is correct. Page 82, section 13.8 of the ATF NFA Handbook has what you’re looking for. Thank you - that was the exact section I was looking at, the C&R license call out specifically leaves very little room for misinterpretation, but wanted to make sure I wasn’t off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357hipower Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Does anyone know how to transfer a C&R machine gun on a C&R license? I called ATF and they never contacted me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 (edited) If it’s a transfer from an individual seller to an individual buyer who has a C&R FFL and the gun qualifies as C&R, it would transfer on a paper form 4. It doesn’t matter if the buyer is in the same or different state and the seller does not need to have a C&R FFL, only the buyer. When the approved form 4 is received by the seller they can ship the gun along with the form directly to the buyer, no need to involve a dealer. If the seller is a dealer/SOT holder, the gun can transfer directly to a C&R holder either in state or out. However, many dealers will not transfer directly to a C&R holder so it’s not uncommon for a dealer in a different state to form 3 (tax free, dealer to dealer transfer) the gun to a dealer in buyer’s state first. Edited June 9 by tommyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357hipower Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 (edited) That's the best explanation I have ever had!! One more question please.....At what point would one buy the tax stamp in that process? And, does the machine gun transfer to a form 4 on the C&R ffl? Edited June 9 by 357hipower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 When the form 4 is completed, it’s mailed to ATF at the the address listed on the top of the form. Included with the three copies of the form 4 are two finger print cards and a check for $200 for the tax stamp (can also put a CC number on the form). Note the fingerprint cards must be the specific ones provided free of charge from the ATF because they have a preprinted address on them which routes the cards to the correct agency for the background check. The gun doesn’t transfer to a form 4 but rather the form 4 is the paperwork required to transfer the gun to you. And it doesn’t transfer to your C&R FFL. The C&R just enables you to transfer C&R guns directly from an individual or dealer out of state. Additionally, the C&R allows you to transport C&R guns across state lines without having to file a form 5320 with the ATF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357hipower Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Thank you again for this terrific information! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning1917a1 Posted Thursday at 01:13 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:13 AM I sold a C&R Dewat machine gun out of state to a C&R holder. I don't have a FFL. It was approved this week on a paper form 1 after 1 month. Brian Browning1917a1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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