Suppressor tax stamps are gone

[MPFiveO]

https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/blogs/nfa-gun-trust-atf-information-database-blog/trumps-big-beautiful-bill-eliminates-the-excise-tax-of-suppressors

[huggytree]

Amazing if true and turns into reality 

 

Edited May 21 by huggytree

[Bill in Bama]

It would be nice if this happens, I'm sure the Progs are going over everything with a fine tooth comb and will discover this, but OTOH maybe it will sail through unnoticed, at least by most.  In the scheme of things, I can't imagine that the lost revenue to Treasury is even a decimal point's worth of money.  This would make the second hand sales of suppressors viable, a subject I was just discussing with a customer yesterday.  A $4-500 ..22 Lr can would now be desirable at a depreciated value of $2-300.  I've always sold my suppressors at a minimum profit anyway, so I'm in favor, let's see if it survives the reconciliation with the Senate.  

[Tall Pine]

Too bad the application process would still be in place. Thats the real issue, not the $200 stamp. They should have just crammed in an outright exemption instead. I doubt it would have faced much opposition. This is a huge missed opportunity imho. If the Republicans were okay with no stamp, it would not have been that much harder to get an outright exemption passed by the same folks (no Dem votes needed).

[SGT Fish]

1 hour ago, Tall Pine said:

Too bad the application process would still be in place. Thats the real issue, not the $200 stamp. They should have just crammed in an outright exemption instead. I doubt it would have faced much opposition. This is a huge missed opportunity imho. If the Republicans were okay with no stamp, it would not have been that much harder to get an outright exemption passed by the same folks (no Dem votes needed).

They tried (and are still trying)

 

Supposedly some Republicans and industry folks (silencer central) lobbied against complete deregulation. 

[Bill in VA]

I’m unclear, and haven’t read the actual bill. The article that’s currently flying about the internet (i.e., this one linked above) claims it’s the excise tax that’s being eliminated, and not the transfer tax.

[MPFiveO]

Yeah, the use of that word is a bit confusing. I haven't read it yet either nor have I seen any of the internet breakdowns yet. An excise tax is something a manufacturer pays, and it's generally ten percent. That wouldn't help the end user much at all. But eliminating the $200 transfer tax would be very helpful. There are suppressors that cost less than a tax stamp and it makes people really question the legitimacy of it. We all know it was intended to be punitive back in 1934 to discourage ownership, oh, and curb poaching as they claimed. I've also heard that this is not a done deal yet and that this part could still be struck from the bill leaving us right where we are now. I posted the link for the sake of information and discussion. I'd love to see the tax go away because that would allow me to afford more suppressors.

[SGT Fish]

.manufacturer excise tax isn't paid on NFA items already 

[Abacab]

The House bill language moves silencers to the GCA as a regular firearm on a 4473. We shall see if it survives in the Senate. 

Edited May 22 by Abacab

[SGT Fish]

3 hours ago, Abacab said:

The House bill language moves silencers to the GCA as a regular firearm on a 4473. We shall see if it survives in the Senate. 

Yeah it sounds like the full HPA has been added back into the bill. Still need the SHORT act to be added back in. But just the HPA would be huge for us. 

 

It'll be a legislative win that is far overdue, and may inspire some more confidence

[Thumpy]

Title of this is miss leading the bill still has a ways to go lol

[Uncle Zeek]

1 hour ago, Thumpy said:

Title of this is miss leading the bill still has a ways to go lol

Yeah, but it did pass the House .... by ONE vote.   All it needs is one vote majority in the Senate and Trump will sign it, right?

[Thumpy]

45 minutes ago, Uncle Zeek said:

Yeah, but it did pass the House .... by ONE vote.   All it needs is one vote majority in the Senate and Trump will sign it, right?

I hope so! But I’m not as optimistic as the fella who started this thread lol

[Got Uzi]

Slippery slope we are going down by lumping all this stuff together. It could turn around and backfire as quickly as this is happening. 
 

Don’t start the “you’re anti-gun” crap at me, I’m just saying slow down and think this out guys, y’all are playing checkers and this is a major league chess game. This could blow up in everyone’s face and you could see a $4,000 tax stamp if it was ever redone and adjusted for inflation. 

Edited May 22 by Got Uzi

[SGT Fish]

16 minutes ago, Got Uzi said:

Slippery slope we are going down by lumping all this stuff together. It could turn around and backfire as quickly as this is happening. 
 

Don’t start the “you’re anti-gun” crap at me, I’m just saying slow down and think this out guys, y’all are playing checkers and this is a major league chess game. This could blow up in everyone’s face and you could see a $4,000 tax stamp if it was ever redone and adjusted for inflation. 

I hate the omnibus bills as well(and so does Thomas Massie, hence his "no" vote even though he is incredibly pro-gun), but I will still count it as a big win for the 2A if this part becomes law

[Thumpy]

5 hours ago, Got Uzi said:

Slippery slope we are going down by lumping all this stuff together. It could turn around and backfire as quickly as this is happening. 
 

Don’t start the “you’re anti-gun” crap at me, I’m just saying slow down and think this out guys, y’all are playing checkers and this is a major league chess game. This could blow up in everyone’s face and you could see a $4,000 tax stamp if it was ever redone and adjusted for inflation. 

If they raise the stamps to 4,000 Then mass non compliance will become even more common place as we’ve already seen in every major city with Glock switches and SBR’s. I believe now is the exact time we need to push as hard as we can. We played the whole “don’t try” since 1986 that mentality sucks 

[Mark2]

I really can’t believe that people are against free NFA Tax Transfers

[johnsonlmg41]

47 minutes ago, Mark2 said:

I really can’t believe that people are against free NFA Tax Transfers

I don't think anyone here is against it, but most people here have seen republicans snatch defeat from the jaws of victory so many times it's hard to imagine a win, especially from congress.  At this point they are just lucky a democrat died this week.

[Got Uzi]

I think you misunderstand me-I’m not opposed to it, I’m just saying that anytime these idiots in DC (Repubic-or Demorat) does something that is going to “help” the 2nd Amendment, it typically backfires and causes more trouble in the end than it was worth. My main fear is what happens in 3 years if things change back to a more liberal house, senate, or president-what happens then? It could get a lot worse than it was to begin with. That’s all I’m saying, be overly cautious with this as I don’t trust anything that comes out of DC that is done to “help us”

[huggytree]

I agree. Once attention is drawn to it . They make it $0.  In 3 years they could make it $2000

 

[SGT Fish]

1 hour ago, huggytree said:

I agree. Once attention is drawn to it . They make it $0.  In 3 years they could make it $2000

 

That was proposed before. Didn't happen. Could happen anytime, before or after.  

 

Good thing is that it's early enough in the political cycle that they'll forget about it before the next potus election 

[MontanaRenegade86]

I've got some sobering tidbits to share with my friends at Sturmgewehr:

• The anti-gunners are going to come after our firearms regardless of what we do or don't do. 
• The Democrat Representative who assumed room temperature earlier this week is going to be replaced by another cretin.
• The fate of our Representative Republic lies in the hands of the electorate of just 7 to 11 states. These people are not allied to any particular ideology, but sway with the winds.
• Legislators are power hungry tyrants, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. 
• Life can be great one day and crap the next. Carpe diem and tempus fugit. 

 

[Bill in VA]

2 hours ago, MontanaRenegade86 said:

I've got some sobering tidbits to share with my friends at Sturmgewehr:

• The anti-gunners are going to come after our firearms regardless of what we do or don't do. 
• The Democrat Representative who assumed room temperature earlier this week is going to be replaced by another cretin.
• The fate of our Representative Republic lies in the hands of the electorate of just 7 to 11 states. These people are not allied to any particular ideology, but sway with the winds.
• Legislators are power hungry tyrants, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. 
• Life can be great one day and crap the next. Carpe diem and tempus fugit. 

 

You forgot:

• Water is wet.

[MontanaRenegade86]

16 hours ago, Bill in VA said:

You forgot:

 

• Water is wet.

One more:

• No matter how awesome a woman is, there is some guy sick of her sh*t. 

I'm not gonna get too excited over this Big Beautiful Bill BS.

[johnsonlmg41]

1 hour ago, MontanaRenegade86 said:

One more:

• No matter how awesome a woman is, there is some guy sick of her sh*t. 

I'm not gonna get too excited over this Big Beautiful Bill BS.

Well the women are going to look better, because in the tax cuts are a repeal of the tanning bed tax, thus orangeness could be getting more rare?    Now you know what the basis for "beautiful" is in the bill......the rest of the story.

[Chef]

The people who tan regularly should have their own tanning bed, and therefore the "10% tax" wouldn't apply to them anyway. That was just a underhanded way to put tanning salons out of business.
And putting people out of business is something the govt. is very good at.

[Bill in Bama]

On 5/22/2025 at 8:39 PM, Got Uzi said:

I think you misunderstand me-I’m not opposed to it, I’m just saying that anytime these idiots in DC (Repubic-or Demorat) does something that is going to “help” the 2nd Amendment, it typically backfires and causes more trouble in the end than it was worth. My main fear is what happens in 3 years if things change back to a more liberal house, senate, or president-what happens then? It could get a lot worse than it was to begin with. That’s all I’m saying, be overly cautious with this as I don’t trust anything that comes out of DC that is done to “help us”

As Regan was wont to say, " I'm from the government and I'm here to help ."   Nine most feared words in the universe.