biubiu Posted Saturday at 12:22 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:22 AM Below is the full unedited conversation, see for yourself. MN1919 1 Started conversation: 7 hours ago I have not received any payment , and it has been over 2 weeks. I am relisting the gun for sale. biubiu 3 Replied: 6 hours ago Check is mailed over a week ago. MN1919 1 Replied: 6 hours ago How and to where? biubiu 3 Replied: 6 hours ago USPS mail and to MN arms address given in your email communication MN1919 1 Replied: 6 hours ago I would stop payment if I were you. biubiu 3 Replied: 5 hours ago I guess I would now… Have been checking on that daily to see if you got it and waiting for your call as you said you would contact me when you receive it. Thought about calling you a couples times to check on it but thought that would be a little lack of courtesy as you might be busy working on something that is more important and this is just a couple days out of the norm at this point. With that said I have to say that when I saw your message earlier today I’m not super happy reading it. You could have easily to called or emailed me saying hey: man I still haven’t received the check maybe it’s lost you want to stop it and let’s send it again or try another way. It’s far from a fortune but I still made some financial arrangements for the money to be sitting in my checking account to be collected. Let’s be honest with ourselves, you know I didn’t get a smoking deal on this and I know you didn’t surprising money out of it either. So maybe consider trade each other with some decency. MN1919 1 Replied: 4 hours ago Our last conversation you said I could transfer the gun to your FFL without waiting for your check to clear my bank. Then 10 days later no check from you and no word from you. I still don't know if you are real. If a check shows up, I guess I will know you were. But it does not sound like you were that sold on the gun anyhow. If a check shows up, I will let you know. biubiu 3 Replied: 13 minutes ago Lmao that is clearly misleading as my original words were: “correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like that you can start the form 3 before the check clears bank as you still physically possess the gun and you ship when it actually clears the bank, if the check somehow fails you can just call the other SOT to have it transfer back tax free and you lose zero dollars.” I think it would be stupid and I personally would not do it, but I think there’s little danger to mail a transferable to a class 3 even without fund. I don’t think anyone would steal a transferable machine gun from a class 3 without sending you fund. That’s literally the most traceable asset in the United States. Over the years it is almost always the buyers who get scammed not the sellers. The fact that you are trying to portrait me as the bad guy is flat out pathetic. What kind of harm could I possibly do to you? Delaying you selling literally the most liquidable transferable FA in the country by two weeks? Come on you have that thing listed since last year it’s not moving at Godspeed anyway lol. On the other hand, I sent a 12k check to a residential address across the country. You tell me who’s more vulnerable lmao. I told you when I will mail the check and when I mailed the check. You made it sound like you said anything to me when the check didn’t show up on time. I would say I’m much more real than you lol. I’m not the one who started to pointing fingers. And you will receive the check if it is not lost by USPS. But I have called NCFU and paid 20 dollars fee to stop payment on it per your advice. Congratulations, you bested all the scammers on the site and became the first on the site to make me loose money for nothing. My frustration and disgust towards you is beyond words. Just go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Surplus Arms Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM (edited) Not taking sides, but I would recommend sending payment with a tracking number - preferably overnight (or at least priority mail) Protects both sides of the deal. There is another thread about 50/50 deals and submitting paperwork before payment in full. Every seller/buyer needs to do what they feel comfortable with. Good luck getting this worked out. Edited Saturday at 11:23 AM by United Surplus Arms 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biubiu Posted Saturday at 02:05 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:05 PM Yes, I was complacent on that after an exhausting FTX, fell for the ease of put on the stamp and throw it in my mailbox. And just to be crystal clear, this deal failing has nothing to do with paperwork processing before check clearing. That’s literally just bought up as part of the 5min small talk I had with MN1919 on the phone. The deal was going to be EFile starts after check has been cleared just like how he had wanted. The sole reason he bought that up is to put the “you not real” hat on me, which I find disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick L Posted Sunday at 12:54 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:54 AM (edited) I have priority mail payments get lost often so definitely dont trust a 73 cent postage stamp Edited Sunday at 12:56 AM by Nick L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don. Posted Monday at 01:30 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:30 PM Your best bet is to electronically transfer cash. None of the big three carriers can 100% guarantee that anything you send will make it to the recipient at all or on time. Don’t hate the receiver, hate the carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauerdb Posted Monday at 09:02 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:02 PM Snail mail payments don't help anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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