Ryanjj Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 What should one expect to pay for an Open Bolt FA Ruger 10/22 or AMT 22? There is one on GB for 31k, seems high? Close to a Norell Trigger pack price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Not many for sale. The last Norrell trigger pack I saw sold for 27k in a few hours. Open bolt is less desirable to me and overpriced at 31k. However in a couple years that may seem like a bargain. If I was looking I wouldn't hesitate at 25k if I saw one for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 You could just buy a .22 upper for your m16 for $600 works great w black dog drums. .22 FA gets boring fast for most people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanjj Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, clc3251 said: Not many for sale. The last Norrell trigger pack I saw sold for 27k in a few hours. Open bolt is less desirable to me and overpriced at 31k. However in a couple years that may seem like a bargain. If I was looking I wouldn't hesitate at 25k if I saw one for sale. There was a FA Ruger 10/22 that was listed for 20k on GB. Must have been listed 50x, like five months. It’s just sold. Then there was an AMT on here that sat for months and that just sold for 19k I believe. I still think when 25k for a RR is high. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPFiveO Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just going on gut instinct but anywhere between 20 and 25 sounds right. I wouldn't pay more unless it was for a 180 with a bunch of accessories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 On 3/26/2025 at 6:56 AM, MPFiveO said: Just going on gut instinct but anywhere between 20 and 25 sounds right. I wouldn't pay more unless it was for a 180 with a bunch of accessories. The problem with that appraisal is that there aren't any full auto transferrable 10/22s for sale in that price range anywhere. I've been looking for a while. They seem to sell quickly unless they are priced above market like that 31k gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 1 sold on GB for $22K in Feb, and another that was listed at $24.5K, Norrell gun with suppressor, "ended" so was probably sold off GB. Both are still listed in the completed auctions so they are less than 60-90 days old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Oh I get it but show me one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Oh and full disclosure, I bought the one in the krinker plinker stock. It's a registered receiver by another manufacturer but it's a Norrell conversion. I would have bought the suppressed one as well had I seen it. It must not have been listed long. There's maybe 3-500 of these out there and not many for sale. They are an easy sell for someone with multiple machineguns but a hard sell for newbies because they are a one trick pony so to speak. I looked at American 180s but they are basically a bullet hose. I still may pick one up since they are still in the low 20ks lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanjj Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, clc3251 said: Oh and full disclosure, I bought the one in the krinker plinker stock. It's a registered receiver by another manufacturer but it's a Norrell conversion. I would have bought the suppressed one as well had I seen it. It must not have been listed long. There's maybe 3-500 of these out there and not many for sale. They are an easy sell for someone with multiple machineguns but a hard sell for newbies because they are a one trick pony so to speak. I looked at American 180s but they are basically a bullet hose. I still may pick one up since they are still in the low 20ks lol. Almost bought that one. It was on Gunbroker for about 4 months (off and on) it’s not a Norell but a clone. He won’t work on it, already asked him. The upper reciever is beat to hell but after a good sandblasting and refinish it will look great. Good luck on the buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Yeah I don't think Norrell is working on anything anymore including his own conversions. That's a shame. He's a library of knowledge. I'm sure someone will take up the slack. The first thing I'm gonna do is take it apart and see if anything needs fixed. I had a manufacturer's license for many years so I can probably make anything I need but it's always nice to talk to the GOATS like Norrell. Sadly the pioneers of pre-86 conversions are all in their 80's if they are still alive. I know I miss Dr. Dater. Helluva nice guy and always willing to talk guns/suppressors. Norrell was kind enough to reweld a rare 4 position M16 selector to safe,semi,auto,burst match the markings on my M16A1 years ago. Tricky welding job. Curtis Higgins is another wealth of knowledge that is still active. Another nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eMGunslinger Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 37 minutes ago, clc3251 said: Yeah I don't think Norrell is working on anything anymore including his own conversions. That's a shame. He's a library of knowledge. I'm sure someone will take up the slack. That's been me for over a decade already, they don't really break though but when they do its a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Norrell welded the sear engagement and then recut the engagement on my first 10/22. If you look at the paperwork, if it is a registered pack, the sear may be Norrell or it may be S&H but Norrell will be electro penciled on the outside of the trigger pack. They appear to be the same design. Not sure what the story is on how Norrell got a bunch of S&H 10/22 sears. At one time, he would put his pack in your registered receiver. He stopped that a long time ago. Not sure if he ran out of sears or just didn't want to make more. The sear is a fairly complex part to machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennon272 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 The one on gunbroker for 31k is the same gun I sold on here for 19.5k like 2 months ago. IMO 22.5 is retail for any registered receiver 1022 variant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/28/2025 at 9:32 PM, eMGunslinger said: That's been me for over a decade already, they don't really break though but when they do its a mess. I'm sure I will be contacting you when I get the gun. Hopefully it was converted correctly but I would still like some spare parts. Norrell had some kind of manual he shipped with his conversions. I would love to get a copy. I searched online with no luck. Anyone have one? Edited March 31 by clc3251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Not much in it other than he says not to take the trigger pack apart. There is a ball bearing and spring that can easily get lost if you pull the pack out and aren’t careful or don’t know it’s there. Standard 10/22 hammer, trigger don’t interchange and some other parts. Most of it is on the suppressor and how to take it apart to clean and replace the grommets. I recommend if you get a Norrell suppressor, clean it regularly since John is probably not going to service it anymore. It gets dirty real fast shooting F/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanjj Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 I found one. Good deal as well!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 Nice. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clc3251 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 On 3/29/2025 at 5:58 PM, clc3251 said: I'm sure I will be contacting you when I get the gun. Hopefully it was converted correctly but I would still like some spare parts. Norrell had some kind of manual he shipped with his conversions. I would love to get a copy. I searched online with no luck. Anyone have one? Well the form 4 cleared in 36 hours and I picked up the gun Sunday. It's definitely a Norrell copy as it has all of the features of his conversion with a couple exceptions. The sear is different and significantly larger than Norrell's. The pivot point also looks to be set back further. There is also a set screw in front of the forward pin that doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than keeping the trigger group in place when you remove the pins. Have you seen this setup? It seems well done and functions correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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