Gofullauto Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 Do they make a smooth bore 40 MM for the Colt M-203 ? I bought a Beehive and it will only go into the Barrel until it hits the rifling's and it stops. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 No offense meant, but is that a "real" Colt M203? I have one and it doesn't have that plate on the bottom (I suspect that's some kind of extractor). Or perhaps you have a 37mm barrel on it? That would explain why your beehive isn't inserting fully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircularSquare88 Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 Perhaps the tube you have is out of spec? My LMT 40MM gave me no issues whatsoever and I also run the beehive adapter as well. Not sure if it’s possible, but you might be able to run an LMT tube with the Colt frame…definitely contact the individual or business you bought the tube from and send them pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball-1 Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 My LMT tube is a bit tight with some of the 40mm adapters - sometimes takes a good shove to get it on - probably will get better the more rounds I pump through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 (edited) 21 hours ago, Chef said: No offense meant, but is that a "real" Colt M203? I have one and it doesn't have that plate on the bottom (I suspect that's some kind of extractor). Or perhaps you have a 37mm barrel on it? That would explain why your beehive isn't inserting fully. Yeah, unfortunately this looks like an airsoft clone of a colt M203. The extractor on the bottom is way too big, the screw on the barrel handguard should be a rivet, and the engraving looks off. I can't nail down what brand airsoft gun it is though. The firing pin on them is usually much bigger diameter and it just pushes a button on the back of the pressurized airsoft shells. I saw on the other forum you said this was eform 4'd to you. I'd be calling that dealer and getting my money back ASAP. Idk how a DD dealer wouldn't know a real m203 from an airsoft one. Edited November 30 by SGT Fish Fixed last paragraph 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 (edited) Looks like a G&P brand airsoft gun. They also made the clone of the KAC quadrant optical sight that is mounted on the side. Though they come with a fake red dot. I actually use one on my real m203 with a 507k red dot. I'm not sure if you'll have trouble getting a refund, not knowing who you bought this from. But if you have trouble, I'm sure the ATF would like to know how this airsoft gun ended up having paperwork with it. It just doesn't make sense, unless someone form 1'd it, and then form 4'd it to a dealer. But in that case it should have engraving added and it wouldn't say "colt" on the paperwork. Edited November 30 by SGT Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baboon Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 Damn is that even as much as the tax stamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 (edited) one more piece of evidence is that Colt never made M203s with the accessory mounting holes on the side. Only LMT and KAC(made by LMT IIRC) have those threaded holes. Edited November 30 by SGT Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofullauto Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 Ok guys i got the 40 MM grenade Launcher mounted. and here are some more pic's of what the thing looks like. Thank you for all your feedback and all help is greatly appreciated, Lucain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Yeah I'm still thinking it an airsoft model. A picture of the breech face and firing pin would confirm it. I don't believe Colt made M203s for Knights armament company, just LMT, though I could be wrong. The "Colt's Inc" name was also only used on older M203s and all the more recent production ones say "Colt defense." I'm not sure when they made they switch but it was before they sold a bunch on the civilian market. But all the airsoft brands use the "colts inc" engraving on their launchers. It looks as if the pins above the engraving are in the wrong position as well. The most important questions are, 1. What does the paperwork say? Colt? Knights? Joe Shmoe? 2. Do the SNs match? 3. Where/who did you buy it from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby GT500 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 https://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/product_info.php?products_id=4898%2FKing-Arms-M203-Grenade-Launcher-Mil-&language=en¤cy=RON&languag= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby GT500 Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Sorry, I had to leave before I put some context to my above link. King Arms made licensed Colt M203 airsoft copies. Note the serial numbers are the same. A quick search shows they used the same markings (and serial number) on all of them. As SGT Fish noted, the pin holes above engraving are wrong location along with the extractor on the bottom. Both of those items match the Kings Arms and M203 in question. No offense meant to Gofullauto, just trying to help. He should contact whoever he purchased this from immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofullauto Posted December 3 Author Report Share Posted December 3 Here you go guys tell me what i have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby GT500 Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 (edited) From the pictures you've posted, IMHO, you have a Kings Arms airsoft M203. How that possibly got registered as a NFA DD is beyond me. Can't tell if the Knights Armament is a sticker, engraved, or painted on. Regardless, it was added. Click the link I posted above as the pictures match what you have. I would be calling the person/company you purchased that from. That is not a factory Colt M203 DD. Good luck. It is a non-gun airsoft copy. Edited December 3 by Shelby GT500 Added last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 38 minutes ago, Gofullauto said: Here you go guys tell me what i have. Definitely a G&P Airsoft Non-Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 100% an airsoft "gun" Very crazy that someone has a form 4 for this. The firing pin us way way too big. The breech plug should not have Phillips screws in it. You can probably also see that the rifling is more like straight lands than it is actual rifling with a twist, as well as the bore being undersized as you have already noticed. Best of luck getting a refund. The only way I can imagine this having a form 4 with it, is that someone form 1'd it and never engraved it, then when it was transferred at some point, the persons name was left off the paperwork and it was only transferred as a "colt." Very sketchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Totally an airsoft copy. Please DO NOT attempt to shoot any live ammo through it! It shouldn't fire, but even if it could be made to fire, it wouldn't be safe. I doubt you'll get a refund on it, because this has to have been a scam, and even if the seller did refund you, you're still going to be out your transfer and tax costs. I'm surprised the transferring dealer didn't notice it was fake before he transferred it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofullauto Posted December 3 Author Report Share Posted December 3 Thank you guys for all your help..... you are the best. and yes the guy won't answer a call now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Surplus Arms Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 4 hours ago, Gofullauto said: Thank you guys for all your help..... you are the best. and yes the guy won't answer a call now. I would recommend contacting the ATF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 (edited) There is unfortunately probably nothing that BATF will be able to do to help the seller regain his money. Although they could probably investigate the original maker/manufacturer that registered it as NFA, if any false statements were made on the form(s). Edited December 3 by inertord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Surplus Arms Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 44 minutes ago, inertord said: There is unfortunately probably nothing that BATF will be able to do to help the seller regain his money. Although they could probably investigate the original maker/manufacturer that registered it as NFA, if any false statements were made on the form(s). agreed - that was my reason for the recommendation to contact ATF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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