chappy Posted October 27, 2024 Report Share Posted October 27, 2024 (edited) I had not heard of this case but when I read the first few sentences my heart skipped a beat. ATF going after posties and owners. Read up and put yourself in his shoes. His life could have been drastically different sitting in prison for 70 years. I was a chaplain for BOP prisoners and being able to go home at night was a blessing. Even the federal pen is a downer and state pen is a violent crap-hole of despair. https://lawenforcementtoday.com/maryland-shooting-range-owner-acquitted-on-charges-of-illegally-acquiring-machine-guns Chappy Edited October 27, 2024 by chappy spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted October 28, 2024 Report Share Posted October 28, 2024 Nice! Glad he got off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustbeme Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) So the prosecutors want to open the trial with "Machine gun XYZ LLC", a registered business and federally licensed Machine gun dealer, sought to execute the published steps to acquire registered machine guns for his licensed machine gun business/gun range and we need you the jury to convict and send him to prison...? With this, Vickers and possibly others how soon must you demo law letter guns to the agency before you have "conspired" to illegally acquire machine guns? Edited December 31, 2024 by Mustbeme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron in Mohnton Pa Posted January 1, 2025 Report Share Posted January 1, 2025 The indictment against the Sheriff who signed the law letters was also dismissed last month with predjudice. Article below. Aaron https://www.wbaltv.com/article/frederick-county-sheriff-chuck-jenkins-indictment-dismissed/62883582 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted January 1, 2025 Report Share Posted January 1, 2025 I think Vickers had much bigger offenses than buying post samples on demo letters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanjj Posted January 1, 2025 Report Share Posted January 1, 2025 2 hours ago, SGT Fish said: I think Vickers had much bigger offenses than buying post samples on demo letters... Wasn’t there another entity tied to Vickers selling “Said Post samples”, not to derail this thread. That whole debacle was a crazy situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted January 1, 2025 Report Share Posted January 1, 2025 42 minutes ago, Ryanjj said: Wasn’t there another entity tied to Vickers selling “Said Post samples”, not to derail this thread. That whole debacle was a crazy situation. There was some questionable importation, along with talks back and forth to sanctioned Russian companies about weapons. I know he wasn't the only one that got wrapped up in it, but he was the most famous one. Of course most of his charges shouldn't be charges according to our bill of rights. But that's another topic as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECIII Posted January 8, 2025 Report Share Posted January 8, 2025 I always kept a log of the postie demo and had a sign in sheet. Now I also do a video of the demo with the le agency as a cya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted January 10, 2025 Report Share Posted January 10, 2025 On 1/8/2025 at 2:01 PM, JECIII said: I always kept a log of the postie demo and had a sign in sheet. Now I also do a video of the demo with the le agency as a cya. I like to video a lot for my YT channel so i tend to get a clip when doing a demo as well, even if I don't post it publicly. Usually the client wants videos anyway for their own enjoyment haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted January 10, 2025 Report Share Posted January 10, 2025 On 12/31/2024 at 7:36 PM, SGT Fish said: I think Vickers had much bigger offenses than buying post samples on demo letters... Vickers was doing way more than just not demoing NFA items to the police.. He was also illegally importing as well.. I heard about the case a year before it went public.. At the time i didn't believe the guy but then it went public.. Stupid way the ATF got wind was he sold a firearm to an idiot that shouldn't have ever enter the US.. and that person bragged about having it, at least the guy who told me about the whole thing. I don't remember all the details what I was told.. but it was shocking enough that I thought he was lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted January 11, 2025 Report Share Posted January 11, 2025 2 hours ago, Ryo said: Vickers was doing way more than just not demoing NFA items to the police.. He was also illegally importing as well.. I heard about the case a year before it went public.. At the time i didn't believe the guy but then it went public.. Stupid way the ATF got wind was he sold a firearm to an idiot that shouldn't have ever enter the US.. and that person bragged about having it, at least the guy who told me about the whole thing. I don't remember all the details what I was told.. but it was shocking enough that I thought he was lying. He was also conversing with people in Russia(illegally) about fixing some of his illegally imported firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanjj Posted January 11, 2025 Report Share Posted January 11, 2025 4 hours ago, Ryo said: Vickers was doing way more than just not demoing NFA items to the police.. He was also illegally importing as well.. I heard about the case a year before it went public.. At the time i didn't believe the guy but then it went public.. Stupid way the ATF got wind was he sold a firearm to an idiot that shouldn't have ever enter the US.. and that person bragged about having it, at least the guy who told me about the whole thing. I don't remember all the details what I was told.. but it was shocking enough that I thought he was lying. Wasn’t a company that rhymes with Bienna armory wrapped up in all this as well? Selling all his posties for him. This is info that was passed along to me so don’t shoot the messenger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted January 11, 2025 Report Share Posted January 11, 2025 Oh yeah.. and he was also making deals to be importing Russian firearms for resale. I forgot what his role was. He was doing some shady things that even shady FFLs were backing away.. His basement had tons of cool firearms just under a sheet. That collection would have been really cool to see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 11, 2025 Report Share Posted January 11, 2025 14 hours ago, SGT Fish said: He was also conversing with people in Russia(illegally) about fixing some of his illegally imported firearms. Is illegal to talk to Russians in Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Fish Posted January 11, 2025 Report Share Posted January 11, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chef said: Is illegal to talk to Russians in Russia? Sorry i should have been more specific. He tried to do business with sanctioned companies. I believe that is one of the charges he actually plead down to. Having conversations about that is illegal. When we sanctioned kalashnikov, KUSA was totally cut off from any data or help with their US production. Edited January 11, 2025 by SGT Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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