Uzi_does_it Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Hey y’all, I currently have a transferable Mac-11 and I’m thinking about selling it to buy a transferable M16. $25-35k is a lot of money for me and I can’t afford both now. I’d love to have a sounding board when I ask myself, “Is it a good idea?” Here’s the pros and “cons” I can think of for upgrading: Pros Ability to shoot in a belt fed format Ability to (reliably) shoot .22 LR It’s a smaller package than the Mac with my Lage 11/15 upper An M16 lower lasts longer/is more durable than a Mac/11 lower More customization options + a trigger that doesn’t suck “Con’s” The Mac can also shoot .223 The Mac is a smaller package and arguably, cooler/more unique The Mac is HALF the price of an M16 but it’s not half the fun- would it be worth buying another cheap machine gun and/or putting the money towards other guns? Is there anything else to consider? What are your thoughts? Thanks so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasegunner Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 my personal 2 cents I have a few M11s so i can put different uppers on them and have differnt guns have the 11/15 and other lage 9mm uppers m11 is 1/2 the price and more fun with uppers that use coffins and drums and even better if you get a cfw slow fire bolt !! i have bought and sold M16s and dont like them Rate of fire takes away from accuracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron in Mohnton Pa Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) M16 Machine Guns have, and always will, go up in value faster and more than MACs …. So if you are feeling like you want one, do it now while it’s within financial reach …. You can always buy another Mac down the line as you financially recover …. M16s are one of the most popular transferable guns out there and they will continue to sky rocket … 5-10 years from now you’ll wish you could find one for 25-35 …They will continue to trend way up in price…. Just my two cents … Aaron - Mohnton, Pa Edited September 26 by Aaron in Mohnton Pa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 What do you want to do with your MG? Send as much lead downrange as possible for the lowest cost? If so, then stick with the MAC. Do you want a RIFLE that you can shoot, and can be configured to be as modern as what the military is fielding, plus be configured to be so much more? Get a M16. The MAC is a range toy, nothing more. A REAL M16 is a rifle, a carbine, a MG and a range toy. Millions of people have semi-auto AR15s and only dream of having the real deal, select fire M16. No one dreams of owning a MAC. If you have the chance to upgrade (and yes, it will be an upgrade in every way possible), then take it. But don't cheap out at the last minute and get a converted SP1, or a clone. Go big or go home. Don't settle for anything less than a Colt factory select fire lower. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Dump the M11/9 and get an M16. You won’t regret it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickStand Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 I’ve got both and enjoy both. I’d hate to say it but if you can swing it, I’d sell the M11/9 and put it towards an M16. The M11/9 has a lot of accessories but the uppers are somewhat expensive. Slow fire bolts (CFW-A) have gotten stupid expensive. 22 kits have gotten stupid expensive and are no longer being produced, at least currently. The M16s can do all the above and then some (.22, 556, 9mm, belt fed, slow it down or speed it up and a lot more). Plus, that vast majority of uppers parts, accessories are cheap as heck and available everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) You can slow down a m16 with a 308 hydraulic buffer and an adj gas block. Makes it extremely controllable at 25 yards. Vs only 15 w/o. Plus some of the 9mm uppers are pretty darn close to as good as a mp5. if your tired of the m11-9 then upgrade. I’ve got a m10 I never use it . Cases of uppers All meh I like my 380 Mac w tungsten bolt can’t get a smaller 9mm smg that is controllable Edited September 26 by huggytree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzi_does_it Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 22 hours ago, Greasegunner said: my personal 2 cents I have a few M11s so i can put different uppers on them and have differnt guns have the 11/15 and other lage 9mm uppers m11 is 1/2 the price and more fun with uppers that use coffins and drums and even better if you get a cfw slow fire bolt !! i have bought and sold M16s and dont like them Rate of fire takes away from accuracy I have a Lage Max-11 upper and a Max-11/15 upper and they’re great. I’ve bought/sold the Suomi upper twice. Not a fan of cumbersome drums and coffins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzi_does_it Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 For y’all mentioning tungsten bolts and hydraulic buffers, why would I want to slow things down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 (edited) Because it becomes controllable if your happy not hitting anything beyond 10 yards great. But I prefer to be able to hold on target at 25 yards. on a m16 that hydraulic buffer makes the gun shoot completely different. Drops rpm -150/200. Turns 9mm kits into a mp5 level control some enjoy a bullet hose and some like max control. To each his own try a Glock switch if you like crazy Edited September 27 by huggytree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymerc Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 go m16 for sure. so versatile, so easy, so ergonomic and comfy to shoot. if you hate it and want to go back, you're out a few hundred bucks and there are always buyers waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippijoe Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 I sold an ac556 and an mk760 for a colt 604, the only regret I have is getting rid of the other 2, wish I would have kept them and just went in deep for the m16. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Whiskey Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 I have several transferable MG’s and my M16 would be one of the last few to sell. The Mac never really didn’t for me. Both are great guns, it’s really up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 Back in the day all I had was a transferable GL M3 GG and a Colt SP1 conversion M16. When the M3 got to be too valuable, I only shot the M16 on a regular basis. I kept it setup as a 9mm DOE clone gun and loved it. I’d go to my monthly fun shoots and take my M16 with the DOE upper, a 22LR upper, can of ammo for each and a bag of mags….life was so simple back then. I prefer the MP5 over the 9mm M16 as it shoots so much smoother, but for the cost and to have a “one and done” platform with modern parts and options, it’s hard to beat an M16 for the guy who wants to have one MG to play with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZFNFAL Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 I have a Colt M16 A1 Carbine and a MAC 10/.45. They are not really comparable. I would hate to choose one over the other. I sort my Select Fire by caliber. For 9mm I use two Colt Model 635 uppers with the Colt mag adapter that locks on the last round , the Enidine hydraulic buffer, and use my Colt mags, and the 10.5 barrel . I bought two 635 kits many years ago and use them on my Colt M16 A1 lower. For .45 I have my MAC 10, it uses unmodded Grease gun mags and I added a H&K folding stock and a side cocking upper. Runs flawlessly. For 5.56 I set aside my original Colt handle style upper and bought 2 Colt M4A1 uppers. I sent them to GG&G to change the front sight assy for their folding sight and run an Aimpoint Comp2. For 7.62x51 I bought a Belgian heavy barrel that the heavy barrel was also shortened to a 16" barrel instead of the stock 21". It was done so well that even FN people take a moment to realize what is different. I would not factor in the belt feed option in as a Pro, the Ares/ Shrike setup is $8k on a good day. have several Beta Cmag kits in 5.56 and can change barrels quite simply by two push pins and changing my complete uppers as needed , nice having three 5.56 uppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasegunner Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 M11 wins knob creek with Lage Upper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 Man that RO looks familiar…..oh wait…that’s ME!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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