Frank I Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Anyone had a eform 4 transfer approved lately? I have several customers at 6 months one at 7 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGW Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 This first ones I had approved were at 5 months. Now I think I got one pushing on 6 months. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 My first eform 4s took 60 days, back when it first went live. Not sure what is going on, perhaps the Biden administration sandbagging transfers to discourage buyers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para45 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Yeah it seems like anything submitted after mid-Feb is pushing 200+ days now. Word on the street is that SilencerShop dumped something like 30k F4’s all at once in mid-Feb that they had queued up/waiting since late 2021, waiting for eForms to stabilize instead of submitting on paper. Had one from early Feb that took 5mos, but the one submitted in the first wk of March is now at over 200 days, which seems to be the norm unfortunately right now. Even F1’s have jumped from ~3 wks in April to anywhere between 45-80 days, ridiculous… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 At 117 days for mine but who's counting. My dealer said since he started doing them in March not one has come back yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanalewis Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 My brother just picked up his Mac 10 today. 7 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorwso Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Dean said: At 117 days for mine but who's counting. My dealer said since he started doing them in March not one has come back yet. this all mine were 30-60 days until march then it started slowing down. Havent had one come back in 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fozziebear Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 195 days from delivery to email notification, just picked it up today. If this is the "better" version of doing business it's laughable that marginal progress by the USG is something we should be thankful for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiller Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Crickets on all the form 4's i've submitted after april. R/s, Bryan.................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 134 days now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navgunner Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I’m at 220 days (and counting) for four F4s but all my F1s are being approved in 35-60days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Got one back a week or so again....almost 7 months to the day. So much for that 60-90 day turn around they promised LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZK Brock Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 it looks like 220-230 day approvals currently. Seems like every week though the wait increases. I’ve got a couple in the wind myself around the 190 day mark here’s a link to some eForm 4 submitted user data Optimized for display on desktop not mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I sent in a eForm 4.. Mailed in the fingerprints separate.. It's been like crickets. Looking on the eForms site shows no update or status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempfi1 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 6:00 AM, Hiller said: Crickets on all the form 4's i've submitted after april. R/s, Bryan.................................... Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 150 days and counting. It will literally be close to 2yrs from start to finish. I remember 30 days doing a corporate. It's to the point I'd pay extra to be on a form 3 if its an out of state purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted November 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 My oldest eform 4 customer transfer was submitted 3/14/22 STILL pending, two others pending since mid April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cieneguita Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I remember when 90 days on old forms were a long time. I just got my Global Entry card 8 months later. Nothing is working efficiently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmeisser Guy Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 6:53 AM, Frank Iannamico said: My oldest eform 4 customer transfer was submitted 3/14/22 STILL pending, two others pending since mid April. Tell them to hurry up and wait. Aren't you telling them to be patient??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in Bama Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 I started e-filing in late March, and to date none have been approved. I can't say I'm terribly surprised, the government is notoriously inept at setting up electronic systems and the IRS is their model. I did have high hopes that the good folks in Martinsburg would do a better job, but I doubt they had anything to do with setting up the system. My customers keep asking if I've heard anything and trying to get them to understand that once its "in process" there is nothing else I can do or find out about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 8:53 AM, Frank Iannamico said: My oldest eform 4 customer transfer was submitted 3/14/22 STILL pending, two others pending since mid April. My oldest form 4 from 3/14/22 FINALLY approved 11/15/2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempfi1 Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 8:14 AM, Frank Iannamico said: My oldest form 4 from 3/14/22 FINALLY approved 11/15/2022 Oh man 8 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted November 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 19 hours ago, Sempfi1 said: Oh man 8 months? Yes : -( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpy Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 8 months seems to be the avg for efile currently. I’m at 5 months on one currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 months mark today.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Eforms is slowly catching up to snail mail paper form submissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tyson Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I was just having a conversation with an agent yesterday about this. He said when EForm rolled out they stopped on paper forms and put everyone on EForms. I just got my last paper form back about a month ago that took 13 months. They wanted this to be a success. Then paper got backed up and they had to clear the backlog so they did that and then it created a backlog on EForm. So now everyone is back on it and will eventually get caught up but expect around 7 months and then start to get faster. I have EForms from May still not approved although the ones before that took 90 days or less. FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navgunner Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I finally got my UZI approval. Filed in mid-May (eForm4) and approved 265 days later. Frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickStand Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 For what it’s worth, I’ve just got three PAPER form 4’s back (two cans and one MG). Forms went out in February and approved November 30th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgunguy Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 Cool I am on month 7 so maybe January will be the lucky month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBronco79 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 If this helps. There is an NFA section on Reddit where individuals post their eform4 approvals. Currently seeing forms that were certified the first week of April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spall Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 234 days and counting here... Have a few others I haven't submitted yet, as I need to make some updates to the trust and can't with transfers in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpy Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I’d recommend on checking on your efile because I had a friend who has been waiting about 10 months he reached out to the atf an the stamp was approved 60 days after he filed for some reason they just never notified him (he Works for an ffl) an neither he or the ffl get a email. So don’t just wait unfortunately like everything this dam government touches… it’s broken an doesn’t always work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spall Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 I've called at least 10 times, still pending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettBaker Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 Christmas gift from ATFE. Eforms sent me notification my stamp was approved on 12/24. Started the process on 4/19, so just over 8 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted January 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) I have two customer eform 4s at NINE yes 9 months WTF? Getting to the point where the approval time for paper or eforms is no different. Edited January 4, 2023 by Frank Iannamico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Question having always done paper in the past. Will my dealer get an email with an approval and print out or will actual form 4's be mailed out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Surplus Arms Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dean said: Question having always done paper in the past. Will my dealer get an email with an approval and print out or will actual form 4's be mailed out? Just emailed to the dealer/printed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
har1690 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 I do believe the dealer and transferee will both receive an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorwso Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, har1690 said: I do believe the dealer and transferee will both receive an email. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 12 hours ago, Frank Iannamico said: I have two customer eform 4s at NINE yes 9 months WTF? Getting to the point where the approval time for paper or eforms is no different. I don't believe it is different.. which really SUCKS. I'm still waiting for an approval for a customer/friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 They have a cue system. Why should your electronic submission jump the line over a mail in submission? I can see where it would jump ahead 3-5 days for "transit time", but that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 10:35 AM, Frank Iannamico said: I have two customer eform 4s at NINE yes 9 months WTF? Getting to the point where the approval time for paper or eforms is no different. Just received an approved mailed in form 4, took 8 months 5 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Funny this efile system is working out damn near exactly how I predicted it would….everyone would jump on board and bog it down to the point it wouldn’t be any different than paper form 4’s….glad to see I’ve been proven right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 months today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted January 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 11:28 AM, Colt Chopper said: Just received an approved mailed in form 4, took 8 months 5 days. So paper is now faster than eforms? Have 2 eform 4s now at 9 months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Frank Iannamico said: So paper is now faster than eforms? Have 2 eform 4s now at 9 months! Evidently. And I know you have more clout than me !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Whiskey Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 I have three E-form 4’s at exactly 8 months today, quite disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Surplus Arms Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) The Reddit Eform 4 thread is indicating they are currently taking approx 265-270 days. (almost 9 months) My oldest submission is at 6.5 months and waiting.... Edited January 11, 2023 by shiklg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflejunky Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 My last paper form 4’s went in March 2022 and approved on November 20th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) On 1/4/2023 at 10:35 AM, Frank Iannamico said: I have two customer eform 4s at NINE yes 9 months WTF? Getting to the point where the approval time for paper or eforms is no different. Both finally approved after 267 days, a week short of 9 months; one was approved on a Saturday the other on Sunday. AND I DID NOT get an email saying they were approved. I found out by checking my eforms account. Edited January 18, 2023 by Frank Iannamico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTLMILCO Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 I have many Efiled form 4's waiting. The first few got approved in 3 months, then they jumped to 8-9 months. I just had 2 go through that were almost 9 months, one was for a buddy @ local PD that I told "60-90 day wait". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man1006 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just had a eForm F4 approved on Sat 1/28/23 (269 days) for a C&R MP40...neither myself or my dealer received an email notification. I called NFA Branch today and was told of the approval. The whole process is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Hi, FWIW, I have the local FFL/SOT watch the online inventory where I purchase the firearm. If it leaves the store inventory it has been approved. Then I can get it printed out from the eForms site. The eForms system seems to have some growing pains. Enjoy, Grasshopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abody71 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I don't understand why you dealers, that are trying to make a living at this, aren't standing in the office of your Senators and Representatives raising hell about ATF restricting trade, Edited January 31, 2023 by abody71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 hours ago, G-Man1006 said: Just had a eForm F4 approved on Sat 1/28/23 (269 days) for a C&R MP40...neither myself or my dealer received an email notification. I called NFA Branch today and was told of the approval. The whole process is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 This is what worries me that the transfer has been approved but my dealer doesnt know? I dont want to be "that guy" calling to see if it's been approved and could you check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 We can stand there and complain but they don’t care. That’s the problem, they have forgotten who it is they work for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 months..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
har1690 Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 months...waiting, 1/2 way there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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