R.L.

Looks like Werner over on the "other" site...

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Has been blocked from  posting there. Geez, what do we have now a bunch of 5 year olds moderating? Rather suspicious timing too, considering the board was just sold.... and his quiet disappearance?

Anyone who knows Werner can appreciate his vast and valuable knowledge of night vision , thermal devices and a multitude of other topics.

Hey Werner, if the other guys don't appreciate your knowledge and posts, and don't want you posting there...come here to post. We would love to have you posting here on Sturm.

 

R.L.

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I agree, JJW (Werner in the Sky with Blood Diamonds) and his vast knowledge would be welcome here.

Something else I noticed, his posts were deleted (all except 2) they must have missed those 2, otherwise it is all gone?

Good thing I copied and saved some of his thoughts on thermal devises. Another one missing is the Professor M?

 


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1 hour ago, Dscheid NFA Investments said:

I agree, JJW (Werner in the Sky with Blood Diamonds) and his vast knowledge would welcome here. 

 

Welcome  anywhere. 

A true wealth of knowledge. One of the only  reasons I would  go to the Subguns site.

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Blocked....awww discrimination. 

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He's been blocked out of there for roughly a couple weeks that I'm aware of.  Someone posted up a hotmail addy to contact him, that was nuked immediately

Allegedly this was over posting up some humorous image that one of the childish moderators found objectionable.  Generally when one gets a time out there they don't strip out posts or enter their handle in the dirty word index.  As far as I know only a couple folks received that treatment, one was Fubar.  So it remains to be seen whether he will return in my opinion.  I suspect it's a permanent Ban when they strip him out of the archives and prohibit even mention of his handle.

Been a bunch of people banned over the years.  Some with good reason, others simply because drunken Hinkle hated them.  Hkat, one of the few gals posting there and a KCR regular was booted after she stood up for her new hubby.  Peter Kolikas was banned as was even no less than Doctor Teller of H Bomb fame.  I can name a variety of others as well.

Hopefully Frank will get a handle on the overall site and send a few moderators packing.  Most of the crew are okay folks but I remain dubious regarding one or two as having let authority ran amuck.

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I'm kinda' done with the foolishness on that site...specifically the sword board. Way too much childish, passive aggressive baloney. I've also noticed the "anon" posts have multiplied there too  in recent days.

Any vacations for these trouble makers? Maybe THEY have get out of jail free cards, or maybe they know someone in high places? Wonder who might be making these posts...HMMM? Anyone... guesses?

This last bit of foolishness banning Werner kinda' sunk the shot for me. 

I wouldn't blame JJ if he told everyone to kiss off after this last bit of heavy handed retribution.

 

Although I cannot speak for everyone here on Sturm, I for one would really appreciate your posts here JJ. I've always enjoyed you informative posts on night vision and the dozens of other topics you are an eminent  authority on.

I'm sure as you already seen in a previous post, I'm not the only member here that feels that way.

We'd love to have you here. This board could use some more  discussion.

Hell... I'll buy your membership here for the next year as a Christmas present, if you decide to join!!

Best regards,

R.L.

If anyone has JJ's email addy, please send it to me at fullauto1919@hotmail.com.

Thanks in advance.

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The problem there has been a growing degree of PC moderation by certain members of the team.  Even after the GDB was taken down Sword had very minimal moderation at first.  Just no Porn, no profanity in the header, no flooding, etc.  It was still quite politically incorrect.  The long time poster that invented the term BCR was JOMG who later became HLJ.  Tommy started giving him timeouts over racial postings.  No, he wasn't using naughty N words, he just tended to focus on Black crime.  After his last six month ban he never returned.  Bowers as well ended up banning the Birdman over one of his funny images, he never returned either.  What remains are pretty much nut huggers who don't dare do any push back, instead they tend to grovel in support of this inane crap.

Hinkle posted up over there that Werner had posted T&A, allegedly it was on the non NFA board.  I saw the pic before the thread was wacked, it really wasn't anything that offensive but that's just my opinion.  Understand due to the culture of leg humping that evolved over there Tom was left with the overall impression that his followers wanted it this way.  Some do, most really do not.  Add to that the lurking sqweky wheels that barage anyone who runs a gun forum or mods one.  If you have not been there, the cry baby BS you get in pm's or emailed is insane.  That's another component of what happened on Subguns in my opinion.  Tom's a decent sort but he's always been rather impressionable.  Like I pointed out before, there were a bunch of characters whining that the GDB made "us" look bad.  Buddy had been no nonsense from the very start of Strum, Tom totally pulled the rug out from every visible participant.

I can give you another active example:  The difference in moderation between the AK Files and the FAL Files.  Jen owns both but the AK Files has gone straight PC under certain moderators.  The FAL Files is rather un PC, the moderators there rarely jump boots in.  On the AK side every two to four days someone is banned, pretty rare on the FAL side.  I figure the AK Files mods are trying to outdo the AK Forum.

On Werner, I never bothered copying the hotmail addy but plenty I am sure have it.  I just have a real hard time accepting this as a temporary ban when they deleted most every contribution he made to the knowledge base in the NFA & Non NFA Archives.  There was just a treasure trove of information involved in all that, tragic loss in my opinion.  Whomever was responsible if indeed a moderator seriously needs to be removed from the line up by the new owner.  Under Subguns copywrite rules all contributions become property of the site so as I see it someone really raped Frank of considerable value by these unnecessary deletions

 

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On 11/29/2017 at 10:45 PM, Jim B said:

He's been blocked out of there for roughly a couple weeks that I'm aware of.  Someone posted up a hotmail addy to contact him, that was nuked immediately

Allegedly this was over posting up some humorous image that one of the childish moderators found objectionable.  Generally when one gets a time out there they don't strip out posts or enter their handle in the dirty word index.  As far as I know only a couple folks received that treatment, one was Fubar.  So it remains to be seen whether he will return in my opinion.  I suspect it's a permanent Ban when they strip him out of the archives and prohibit even mention of his handle.

Been a bunch of people banned over the years.  Some with good reason, others simply because drunken Hinkle hated them.  Hkat, one of the few gals posting there and a KCR regular was booted after she stood up for her new hubby.  Peter Kolikas was banned as was even no less than Doctor Teller of H Bomb fame.  I can name a variety of others as well.

Hopefully Frank will get a handle on the overall site and send a few moderators packing.  Most of the crew are okay folks but I remain dubious regarding one or two as having let authority ran amuck.

Jim, 

Any news on the "Werner" blockade over there? I've tried all of my sources, seems either no-one knows, or no-one is willing to say just what happened. I find it rather odd, he just fell of the face of the earth, and nobody knows what happened. Can't find an email address for him either. I can't believe he did something that egregious.  The guy was a gentleman. I never saw any profanity, personal attacks or nudity in his posts ever. Werners posts were a valuable asset to most of us in the firearms community and will be missed by most.  I for one benefited personally from his knowledge regarding NiteCore flashlights , rechargeable batteries and thermal imaging devices. Could it be since his posts became property of Subguns, as all posts do or did per their policy, is it possible all of his posts and removal of said posts, had something to do with propriety and the sale of Subguns? I hope he accepts our invitation here on the Sturm boards. His vast knowledge would be greatly appreciated here on Sturm! If anyone here  knows JJ ask him to contact me please @ fullauto1919@hotmail.com

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On 11/28/2017 at 3:13 PM, Dscheid NFA Investments said:

I agree, JJW (Werner in the Sky with Blood Diamonds) and his vast knowledge would be welcome here.

Something else I noticed, his posts were deleted (all except 2) they must have missed those 2, otherwise it is all gone?

Good thing I copied and saved some of his thoughts on thermal devises. Another one missing is the Professor M?

 

I think you might be using the search engine incorrectly. By default it's set to the last 2 weeks. I searched and it came up with over 5000 posts.

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