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JACK HOLSEY citrus heights,Ca FRAUD ALERT !


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THIS A WARNING about  a person named JACK HOLSEY IN  CITRIS HEIGHTS CALIFORNIA. IN HIS EMAIL ITS JC HOLZY. in response to an add on G-brkr showing a russ maxim and mount I asked if he would ell the mount only. we agreed on a price, expensive but I wanted to fill a hole. the pics showed a very early pre WWII maxim wheeled mnt with the legs and highly polished. WELL we all know what to do and even when you play by all the rules and jump through the hoops, YOU CAN STILL GET STUNG! He shipped one of the worst condition WWII Russian mnts I have ever seen, it had been welded, drilled, torched and was beat to heck. also shipped 2 beat up rear legs from a post war Yugo lafette /2 bolts and /2 cobbled spacers that I guess were to somehow be added to it in some fashion. we exchanged several emails before terms were agreed so there was no confusion about what was offered. in all the haste to get it right, I made the serious mistake if NOT MAKING HIM LIST IT WITH A BUY IT NOW OPTION ON SITE. he sent his info and I sent the funds . of course as soon as I opened it I knew what was up and any attempt to contact him would be futile, but I did try and nothing. because he has listed many very hard to find items, others will be in touch . JUST BE CARE FULL.

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it always HELPS to type the guys name and town ..... IN YOUR TITLE ....... helps guys " Zero In " on these less than honest sellers quicker.

Title Like this ....    Fraudulent Seller > Jack Holsey - Citrus Heights CA

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THANX BUDDY! will do so in the future , but hope there is no need.  I don't have much experience in these matters , and it breaks my heart it occurs. for me ITS NOT THE MONEY! after all the excitement  of finally locating a TREASURE, the anticipation and wait for transit. then peeling the wrapper to JUNK nothing as described the knowledge that predators have invaded our sport hurts the worst. I posted the mount for sale on G-brkr as junk and put as much info about him the site allows the same time I did this. one of them worked because he contacted  me and replied he wanted to make me happy so we will see. at best its going to cost me at least $500 in shipping once I return to cover both ways so I will keep you all informed. cheers mike

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I had the same bad experience. I bought an antique Turk Mauser with a scout mount and "Trijicon SRS". The Trijicon turned out to be a cheap Chinese Knockoff, as sold on Ebay for $70, same serial number and everything. The rifle was completely worthless, as he had taken a grinder to the receiver. The barrel is completely shot out, safety won't flip, rounds won't feed because he hacked the box all up. Doesn't eject. Bolt is way loose. Nothing can be done to fix it, since he ground on the receiver. The return address on the box was Sandra Holsey. They didn't include parts of the stock that were specifically included in the deal, a bipod, and scope side mount. $850, shipped to Alaska. The whole package wasn't worth more than $100. The auction was almost over when I emailed him with questions about it, so I foolishly bought it outside GB, though I had first suggested that we go through them.

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He has now responded to me and said that he will make it right. I appreciate that. I will delete or edit my posts to reflect that, when he does come through with the money, and I send back the gun. If you read these posts now, and later see that they are gone, it will be because he did make it right. Now, I have to wait, and look for a good receiver that I can use. What a bummer! I was excited to build a nice 8mm. This just wasn't workable.

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promise's promise's ???  same for me but don't count on it he is just trying to gain time to hit others the guy is an outright flake and should be jailed a PERFECT EXAMPLE of the failures of the net. its really not condusive to our sport in my opinion. but who am I? 

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this guy is using several destinations and diff gunbrkr accounts to stay active. gun  broker should kick him off but they don't seem to care.  just beware when using th site as they offer NO PROTECTION and couldn't care less AGAIN ITS THE MONEY FOR THEM AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS

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Mike, you're right. I have a strong faith in God, and believe in the principles of repentence and forgiveness. That is why I censored my first posts, and wrote that he did respond. Without repentence, there is no forgiveness. Sorry doesn't cut it. There was no apology, that's not what I'm saying. Repent means, to change. A change of heart, resulting in a change of actions. From the heart, deciding to change, and ceasing to commit the offense. I refrained from filing a suit in court, when he responded, saying that if I was unhappy, he would refund my money. Unhappy does not begin to descibe it. Angry, shocked, mollified, at a loss as to why someone would grind on an antique receiver, much less, pass it off as something of good quality, when it was, in fact, useless. Literally useless. That's hardly breaking the surface of how I feel about this. I have a wife and five kids. My daughter has no legs. My wife and I both work full time to make ends meet. This kind of crooked dealing is unacceptable. Using US MAIL to perpetuate this fraud, I believe, is a Federal offence. Mail fraud is a serious offense. I will file a suit against Jack Holsey and Sandra Holsey. If he follows through, refunding my money, I will ship the gun back, at my expense. That is the only solution, outside of court. If he accepts that, I too will repent, and have the case dismissed. I hope he has it in his heart to change. 

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UPDATE!!  I found a 2013 news add . stated he was arrested with 12 unreg  machine guns, silencers, meth and tons of child porn. article also stated he had 2 prev arrests for non reg nfa. he is still free??? sacramento atf was advised he is still active . WHAT IS THE STORY?  INFORMER?  NO ANSWER FROM ANY LAW AGENCY.  so much for laws, just ignore them no problem

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Sad but true "NO ANSWER FROM ANY LAW AGENCY.  so much for laws, just ignore them no problem"

I have found that when I needed L.E help or even help from the ATF (for NFA items) all I get are crickets.

Not sure where their motives come from, they only want to take on the easy cases?

Or better yet, here is local example: if you are in downtown Portland and you are homeless, you can piss on the street, shoot heroin (with the free needles they hand out) without a cop saying boo. NOW, if you are a person that looks like you have a job and can pay for a ticket, you better not step out of line because you will get a ticket or thrown in jail.

Makes me sick how laws are enforced or not enforced and it all starts at the top, for Portland it is Mayor (I have no balls) Wheeler.

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PUNISHER, yep  I experienced  the same thing on my last visit to Portland. not sure the name of the place but it was at a very upscale building downtown with a fine sculptured lawn and the main display was a gentleman clad only in shorts down to his knees and he was smeared with feces almost everywhere below the waist.had a needle still in is arm and was mumbling obscene phrases to passerby.  we made the mistake of buying a "day transit pass"  and most buses in the rear looked worse than a porta potti after a rock concert except there was no indication of any paper in the waste. our visit to Victoria island had the same high light. I don't get to many "inner cities" or back east much thank god , but I hear tales of the same side effect from all the social support venues. its a fact the only people the laws adversely effect are the ones that have something to loose and can pay why should they waste the time?

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