Uscha_Alfons Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Here is a situation a friend of mine has: Casual collector with C&R license of over 20 years 5 registered class III in collection no transactions (bought or sold) in last 8 years, last license purchased expired September 2014. So he has now noticed, almost two years later that his C&R license expired in September 2014 with no record of renewal or follow up contact from ATF. He assumes that the license was not renewed as his last license is dated "expires Sept 30, 2014" and he has no new license and had not written a check to re-apply for the 3 year license. He should have one that states "expires September 2017". So what should he do? Edited September 28, 2016 by Uscha_Alfons to better explain the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 NOTHING! keep the records, for obvious reasons. the ATF notice should have been a notice requesting his intent . the records are only for his benefit and they don't need to be sent in like other FFL records. . the NFA weapons don't change anything, the acquisition had to be logged like any other C+R and that's it cheers mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uscha_Alfons Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 8 hours ago, mike todd said: NOTHING! keep the records, for obvious reasons. the ATF notice should have been a notice requesting his intent . the records are only for his benefit and they don't need to be sent in like other FFL records. . the NFA weapons don't change anything, the acquisition had to be logged like any other C+R and that's it cheers mike So you are saying that his ownership of the weapons is not affected by a valid C&R license once the transfer has been made? He is not going to buy any more MG's, but may choose to sell 1-3 of them in the next two years. Can he get his C&R license renewed without having to worry about his 5 existing transfers being considered forfeit? He lives in Michigan, a Class III friendly state. thx, Alfons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austringer Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I think he could be in deep trouble if he keeps the C&R NFA items that he owns and his best bet would be to immediately start transferring the NFA items to me as I hold a current valid C&R FFL. This way, he will avoid any potential negative consequences from his possession of C&R items with an expired C&R license. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lone Ranger Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 You do not need a collector's license to acquire or possess firearms. The license is helpful in acquiring and transporting interstate, but otherwise does not allow you access to anything you cannot have without it unless there is a state law saying only licensed collectors can have ___. If you have a use for one, re-apply and get another one. If not, save the $30 and go on with your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 the C+R 'S only function was to allow him to receive arms in that category direct! IT HAS NO FUNCTION FOR REGISTRATION OR OWNERSHIP! once the lic expires its function is FINISHED! if he sells ANYTHING that was acquired with that license and he still has a valid lic, he would enter the buyers info in the disposition area. IF his lic is expired, everything he owns is exactly like ANY OTHER PRIVATELY HELD FIREARM and they would be treated as such along with required legal caveats . BOTTOM LINE ? once the lic expires , its like it NEVER EXISTED as its function has ceased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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