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Well I thought I had a deal, your thoughts?

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Item 577721081, transferable 1919 was for sale on gunbroker last week. I reached out initially via gunbrokers query link to ask the seller a question. Below is the email chain of our conversation since the initial inquiry. I thought I was on track to go up to Maryland this coming Saturday to provide funds and inspect the item. To my amazement item 579181605 is on sale on gunbroker this week. Exact same pictures, and description. Sure he could have more than 1 for sale but since he didn't call me and hasn't responded since repost the exact same ad, I am calling bullshit. Buyer beware.

I am confused. I thought we had a deal, so why is the item back on gunbroker? I am posting our email chain to subguns and sturmgewher and let the NFA community judge you.

Aaron Dempsey

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 21, 2016, at 8:32 PM, BRIAN WALKER wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> I'll call you tomorrow, and we will see if we can work out a time for Saturday. I know i have an event most of the day but should be available in the late afternoon, early evening.
>
> Brian
>
>
> From: aaron dempsey
> To: BRIAN WALKER
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item #577721081
>
> 202XXXXXXX
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 8:24 PM, BRIAN WALKER wrote:
>
>> Aaron,
>>
>> You still interested? We can arrange for you to inspect it.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> From: aaron dempsey
>> To: BRIAN WALKER
>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item #577721081
>>
>> Let me know if it sells, I will pay 17.5k. I am in XXXXXXX VA and could personally deliver funds and inspect the item. I am a resident of AZ so I would have to transfer to a dealer there. Is it on a form 3 or form 4? 1919 does really fit what I have been collecting but I figured with a tripod and t/e, it would be the best platform to introduce my kids on. Just let me know.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Aaron Dempsey
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:37 PM, BRIAN WALKER wrote:
>>
>>> Will run belts or links. Reserve is 17500.00
>>>
>>> From: aaron dempsey ;
>>> To: BRIAN WALKER ;
>>> Subject: Re: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item #577721081
>>> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 12:56:34 AM
>>>
>>> Does it matter if you run links or cloth belts in it?
>>>
>>> Just let me know if you sell it. I won't ask about our reserve since I find it a touchy subject when asking sellers. I am in the neighborhood of 17k. Looking for 1919 or Fleming Steyr Aug Pack, which ever comes first.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> AARON DEMPSEY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: BRIAN WALKER
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:28 PM
>>> To: dempseya
>>> Subject: Re: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item #577721081
>>>
>>> Yes, it was built at my shop about 20yrs ago. We have built hundreds of 1919s and never had a problem from one of them.
>>>
>>> From: dempseya ;
>>> To: FFBWMD ;
>>> Subject: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item #577721081
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 20, 2016 8:13:29 PM
>>>
>>> GunBroker.com
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>>> -- BEGIN MESSAGE FROM USER --
>>> Do you know who built the gun?
>>> -- END MESSAGE FROM USER --
>>> This message is regarding the following item:
>>> Item Title: 1919A4 Transferable Machinegun w/extras
>>> Item Number: 577721081
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Edited by AaronD

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Posted (edited)

Seems like a legitimate seller to me.... did you actually speak with him? Try to arrange face to face meeting / inspection/payment . Then bid on auction and win. The seller has a three day inspection/ return agreement listed in auction. Some sellers feel safer using the auction site.

Good luck 

Edited by Born loser...in Montana
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That auction has been ended last I seen, may have just been set up for an auto-relist, I would try contacting him again.

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We have resolved the issue.  I have received communication with the dealer.  Dealer stated the listing was on auto-list and due to his schedule of his day job he was unreachable and just missed that the auto-listing was there. 

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Congrats! Enjoy the new beltfed! 

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