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PSA about DLO frame sale gone bad - real bad


secondofangle

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I’m posting this because there are many (many!) items in this situation with this seller which are totally unable to be transferred until he and his dealer get the situation unf*&ked, and they don’t have any viable plan to do so. This is not entirely seller’s fault, though some amateurism, naivete, incompetence, negligence, and indolence, on his part and that of his “dealer”, were clearly at work and conspired to drag this saga on for more than 9 months.

Short story is that 9 months ago I purchased a DLO frame, on an F3 with his dealer, from earlwisr on this forum. The seller is Dr. David S., a physician in Naples, FL. It was never able to be transferred from his dealer, Mr. Mark J. M., who formerly had a business called RICMARFL, LLC, associated with Naples Guns and Ammo at 572 Tamiami Trail North in Naples FL. (This is the information on the F3.) During the 9 months, I had lots of opportunity cost/lost interest with my $40,000 tied up; lost out on appreciation in the MG market during that time; missed out on 2 other DLO boxes; and incurred countless hours of time and frustration emailing, researching and trying to get this item transferred, as detailed elsewhere. This culminated with my paying hundreds of dollars yesterday for a legal consultation with Prince Law Firm in PA (Firearms/NFA specialists) for guidance on how to proceed.

F3s were allegedly (I was never shown them) submitted twice and disapproved for my item and at least one other trigger pack bought by another guy who will remain unnamed unless he chimes in. Same situation both items. After dicking us around for 9 months, I, through my own research and diligence, and the assistance of Prince Law learned that:

 

  • ·       Mr. Mark J. M. (MJM) dissolved RICMARFL, LLC in 2019; it is a non-entity in Florida

 

  • ·       MJM sold Naples Guns and Ammo in or about 2019; the address is also changed

     

  • ·       MJM does not have an active FFL – it was either lost, relinquished, not renewed whatever

     

  • ·       MJM does not have an active SOT

     

  • ·       MJM has ruffled feathers with his local ATF branch/agents

     

  • ·       The legal status of the items that MJM has on F3s from when he was an FFL/SOT in good standing, and when he owned RICMARFL, LLC and Naples G&A is uncertain; the path forward to transfer them is likewise uncertain

     

  • ·       AFT recommended to my SOT that the DLO be transferred on an F4, but it’s not clear what should be listed on the F4 since none of what existed on the F3 is a legal entity associated with MJM any more

     

  • ·       MJM allegedly has spoken with AFT about this situation, but is not forthcoming with any information whatsoever about such meeting, stating nothing more than vagaries such as “they’re working on it”

    During those 9 months, neither the seller nor MJM revealed any of this to me, despite dozens of contacts with them, which would have made the problems very clear, allowing me to exit earlier. They just kept repeating that “we have to wait to see if this F3 gets through.” This was plain amateurish bungling and negligence at best, intentionally deceptive of them at worst, . MJM clearly knew all of the above, and Dr. David S could have, or should have known most or all of the above. (Dr. David S and MJM are friends, but MJM has exited the firearms business and in conversations with him he has made clear that this whole situation is a giant nuisance for him, and he lacks the time, motivation [and apparently the know-how] to remedy it.)

My grievances aside, since they apparently cannot be remedied besides the refund I’ve been issued, I advise everybody else to steer clear of these two because they don’t know what the hell they’re doing and have absolutely no viable plan or path forward to transfer what appears to be, according to the seller, dozens or scores of items in this same SNAFU, on F3s with a legal non-entity listed.

Caveat Emptor.

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