MP5 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 I have a B&T UMP .45 silencer (Swiss mfg., imported by H&K), which I got about 20 years ago, when I got my post-86 UMP/45. I hadn't looked at the Form 3 that it is on for quite a while, but recently noticed that it has the red "Limited to use as sales sample" notation in the approved box; it does not say "restricted registration - possession limited to continued compliance with PL 99-308" as one would find on a "Post-86" MG. So....... what is the legal significance of the "Limited to use as a sales sample" notation on a foreign manufactured silencer - which was likely imported in the late 1990's - and is registered on a Form 3? Is this silencer like a "pre-May Dealer sample" MG, in that it can only go from Dealer to Dealer (but without a "LE Demo Letter") and the Dealer can keep it if he lets his SOT go? (Though I seriously doubt it was imported prior to 1986.) I don't know that much about silencers, hoping one of you experts can help out with an answer to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scofieauto Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 yes, it is treated as a premay sample. May 19, 1986 prevented the manufacture of machine guns for civilian purchases. Suppressors were banned from importation with the gun control act of 1968, therefore any imported after then are presamples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 When I learned a suppressor was a premay.. I was like What?? Then it made sense when they mentioned it was imported before 1986. It's one of those things where I always assumed pre86 only apply to MGs. .but it applies to imported restricted NFA items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5 Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ryo said: When I learned a suppressor was a premay.. I was like What?? Then it made sense when they mentioned it was imported before 1986. It's one of those things where I always assumed pre86 only apply to MGs. .but it applies to imported restricted NFA items. Well, apparently........ not exactly. I am pretty sure that the Hughes Act does not apply to silencers. The notation on my late 1990s-ish imported silencer is "Limited to use as a sales sample" which is exactly the same notation as is found on pre-May '86 MG's, despite this being a late-1990s import. (It does not have the "restricted registration - possession limited to continued compliance with PL 99-308" notation that is found on Post-86 MG's.) Apparently, these post-1986 imported silencers are treated like Pre-1986 DS imported MG's. Anyone else care to chime in on this topic and confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 Thanks MP5 for pointing this out. I'm going to do some research on this tonight. I never bothered through with learning more why the silencer was treated like a pre86. I never deal with that market. I just buy suppressors I can sell to the civilian market. Now I'm really curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Ryo said: Thanks MP5 for pointing this out. I'm going to do some research on this tonight. I never bothered through with learning more why the silencer was treated like a pre86. I never deal with that market. I just buy suppressors I can sell to the civilian market. Now I'm really curious. Please let us know what you find out, and include links to relevant government info/sources on this subject, if you can. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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