Posted 30 Oct 2020 What a joke, Hk Pro . Tony, we have your back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 Another VerticalScope site Xenforo dumpster fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 4 minutes ago, b_san said: Another VerticalScope site Xenforo dumpster fire. Please clarify your response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 VerticalScope buys outdoors/powersports forums, converts them to their awful Xenforo forum software so they can monetize the content, users complain about the site layout and functionality and mods start banning long time users. It's a predictable cycle, VerticalScope is a cancer and runs forums into the ground like Cerberus Capital/Freedom Group did with firearms manufacturers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 Thank you for the informative response. The Truth is always welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 4 hours ago, b_san said: It's a predictable cycle, VerticalScope is a cancer and runs forums into the ground like Cerberus Capital/Freedom Group did with firearms manufacturers. Ceraberus Capital does that to grocery stores too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 9 hours ago, Born loser...in Montana said: What a joke, Hk Pro . Tony, we have your back. Thanks, brudda!!! Heard that a new HK site is in the works--- member-oriented and dedicated to knowledge--- not profits. Told that the traffic on the other site has significantly diminished. Tony 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 9 hours ago, b_san said: VerticalScope buys outdoors/powersports forums, converts them to their awful Xenforo forum software so they can monetize the content, users complain about the site layout and functionality and mods start banning long time users. It's a predictable cycle, VerticalScope is a cancer and runs forums into the ground like Cerberus Capital/Freedom Group did with firearms manufacturers. Like Google/Facebook/Twitter!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 1 hour ago, AGG said: Thanks, brudda!!! Heard that a new HK site is in the works--- member-oriented and dedicated to knowledge--- not profits. Told that the traffic on the other site has significantly diminished. Tony Let us know where/when its available. hkpro has been going down the tubes for a long time. 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 13 hours ago, b_san said: VerticalScope buys outdoors/powersports forums, converts them to their awful Xenforo forum software so they can monetize the content, users complain about the site layout and functionality and mods start banning long time users. It's a predictable cycle, VerticalScope is a cancer and runs forums into the ground like Cerberus Capital/Freedom Group did with firearms manufacturers. Which gun forums besides HKpro are infected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 2 hours ago, taylorwso said: Let us know where/when its available. hkpro has been going down the tubes for a long time. 10-4!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, HHollow said: Which gun forums besides HKpro are infected? I believe at least the following: AK Files FAL Files Gunboards Here is the list--- cannot find "firearms": https://www.verticalscope.com/ Tony Edited 30 Oct 2020 by AGG 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 30 Oct 2020 Don't know about ownership...but 1919a4.com has also switched to same format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 1 Nov 2020 The M14 Forum was infected by same earlier this year. Many left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 Nov 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:10 AM, AGG said: Thanks, brudda!!! Heard that a new HK site is in the works--- member-oriented and dedicated to knowledge--- not profits. Told that the traffic on the other site has significantly diminished. Tony So Tony, why did they do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 Nov 2020 23 minutes ago, pstidan said: So Tony, why did they do this? Generally--- obey or be cancelled!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 Nov 2020 2 hours ago, pstidan said: So Tony, why did they do this? To monetize membership data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 Nov 2020 5 hours ago, b_san said: To monetize membership data. The ultimate goal--- at the expense of great, informational sites!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 Nov 2020 47 minutes ago, AGG said: The ultimate goal--- at the expense of great, informational sites!!! Tony It's all about clicks on a website. The more clicks you have, the more you can charge advertisers and hot link sites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 Nov 2020 15 hours ago, pstidan said: It's all about clicks on a website. The more clicks you have, the more you can charge advertisers and hot link sites. Ahhh--- so that's why you have to click on every post to make it disappear!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 Nov 2020 Here's a pro-tip, HKPro has a tapatalk plugin. If you browse the site on with a Ad-free version of Tapatalk (pro subscriber or cracked version) you can view all the posts without any of their marketing BS or ad links. You can also Mark All as Read in tapatalk. This works with most of the VS sites I've run into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 Nov 2020 Not suprised to see gunboards on that list, it went to shit long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 Nov 2020 50 minutes ago, b_san said: Here's a pro-tip, HKPro has a tapatalk plugin. If you browse the site on with a Ad-free version of Tapatalk (pro subscriber or cracked version) you can view all the posts without any of their marketing BS or ad links. You can also Mark All as Read in tapatalk. This works with most of the VS sites I've run into. Just add this site's entries to your HOSTS file and all adds disappear forever. They publish updates every couple of months. ==> http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm <== I've been using their updated HOSTS file for two years and have encountered no glitches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 4 Nov 2020 20 hours ago, pstidan said: Just add this site's entries to your HOSTS file and all adds disappear forever. They publish updates every couple of months. ==> http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm <== I've been using their updated HOSTS file for two years and have encountered no glitches. Very interesting!!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 5 Nov 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 10:32 AM, b_san said: To monetize membership data. What exactly does that mean? Why did he get banned? Did they want subscription money for selling stuff? Or? I can't imagine much controversy over HK sears and clone hosts, but I only see it a couple times a year (nfa section only) and I've never seen much drama there.......dang did I miss it? Sadly I only got banned from subguns once and then quit....I should have pursued it harder, but I guess I'm just a quitter. Eventually they ran out of guys with MG's to ban and it died.....as did many members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 5 Nov 2020 12 hours ago, johnsonlmg41 said: What exactly does that mean? Why did he get banned? Did they want subscription money for selling stuff? Or? I can't imagine much controversy over HK sears and clone hosts, but I only see it a couple times a year (nfa section only) and I've never seen much drama there.......dang did I miss it? Sadly I only got banned from subguns once and then quit....I should have pursued it harder, but I guess I'm just a quitter. Eventually they ran out of guys with MG's to ban and it died.....as did many members. Complaining about the new Xenforo format (with little or no help from the Admin/Mods--- fellow members answered most questions), and mentioning that there may be a new, alternative, HK website (dedicated to knowledge--- not profit) on the horizon!!! Tony 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Nov 2020 Wow, so you.....the 600th guy to complain about their format got singled out? And mentioned a technically, non existent website? They must have some pretty sensitive millenial admins now? So you'd have to assume if you post any links to other forums not owned by them you could be on the chopping block? I think they need to make a profit, but I don' think banning people for information sharing is going to go well in the long term? It seems censorship is closing in on a lot of places these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Nov 2020 37 minutes ago, johnsonlmg41 said: Wow," ... " It seems censorship is closing in on a lot of places these days. Now to set the record straight , you can't understand Totalitarian Enactment until you've been " ZAPPED " Thanks Buddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Nov 2020 17 hours ago, Born loser...in Montana said: Now to set the record straight , you can't understand Totalitarian Enactment until you've been " ZAPPED " Thanks Buddy Oh, the good old days on the original Sturm. Been there done that! NFA Investments FFL/SOT Class III (63) Dealer Since 2005 Mesa, AZ. Cell #’s 503-720-2280 or escheid@comcast.net Heckler & Koch weapons, Colt M16’s and Pre 86 Dealer Sample weapons. All items posted for sale, are in inventory and NFA items are on Form 3’s ready for transfer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 10 Nov 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 5:58 PM, johnsonlmg41 said: I think they need to make a profit, but I don' think banning people for information sharing is going to go well in the long term? It seems censorship is closing in on a lot of places these days. They have always protected certain members. You wouldn't keep paying that sweet advertising money if everyone posted the truth about the crap guns you made. I dont think its millennial mods, its old school my way or the higway type guys. Hell I riled up a bunch of boomers that think any improvement to the HK platform is sacrilege and they deleted my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 11 Nov 2020 22 hours ago, taylorwso said: They have always protected certain members. You wouldn't keep paying that sweet advertising money if everyone posted the truth about the crap guns you made. I don't think its millennial mods, its old school my way or the highway type guys. Hell I riled up a bunch of boomers that think any improvement to the HK platform is sacrilege and they deleted my post. Rumor has it that a common-sense alternative--- knowledge seekers--- not greed heads or elitists--- will be forthcoming!!! Tony 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Nov 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 7:09 AM, AGG said: Rumor has it that a common-sense alternative--- knowledge seekers--- not greed heads or elitists--- will be forthcoming!!! Tony I sure hope so. The current admin and HK only attitude is terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 22 Nov 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 9:02 AM, taylorwso said: I sure hope so. The current admin and HK only attitude is terrible. Here ya go: https://www.hkproshop.com/forums/index.php?_pwa=1 Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
