davester Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Wondering what typical transfer times are running on machineguns on Form 4 owned by individuals transferring to SOT's these days. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLC Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 From my personal collection on a Form 4 to an out of state FFL/SOT, sixty-two days. Alan dba POLLC FFL/SOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 After Form 4 approval to FFL/SOT. Any speculation on the next step. Approval time frame from dealer to individual? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davester Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Dealer to individual has been averaging 10 months for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I bought my FN-240 from an individual on a form 4 in FEB 2019 it cleared to my dealer here just b-4 x-mas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Wow this is going be a long road. The individual i bought from sent in his Form 4 to transfer to my dealer around December 1st., and his check was cashed around December 15th 2019. I guess i have plenty of time to find accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 don't get too discouraged, you got the info you asked for. ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, just after spring of 2019, many transfers were reported clearing in less than 4 months, including several of mine. its a sad fact but if you are stuck with a "do nothing examiner" it wont get any better. HOWEVER I know of 2 that were approved and completed in 7 WEEKS during Sept and Oct 2019. just this week my dealer submitted a 5 piece batch transfer to me on form 4's and they used the new electronic information transfer for the fingerprints and other information , not sure how all that works or more details but that is said to REALLY SPEED THINGS UP so I will keep ya posted. it looks like I might be around long enough to enjoy that FN-240 b-4 I take the long walk, GOD WILLING! HOORAH! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflejunky Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Spoke to ATF last Wednesday and was told average transfer time ten months currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Well 10 months, guess thats something to aim for. What I bought is a S&W 76 with suppressor from a out of state individual, will those form 4's get approved at the same time or do they get separated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflejunky Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Most of the time if they are sent in together the same examiner handles both and you get them back together. In my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, riflejunky said: Spoke to ATF last Wednesday and was told average transfer time ten months currently. Not for a transfer from an individual TO a dealer. Those are averaging 3-4 months, some less, some more. Edited January 21, 2020 by b_san Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflejunky Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 14 hours ago, b_san said: Not for a transfer from an individual TO a dealer. Those are averaging 3-4 months, some less, some more. Should have read it more closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born loser...in Montana Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Generally transfer times for individuals has remained dismally slow despite mind blowing advancements in technology ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettBaker Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 My .22 Suppressor took about 8 1/2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnh Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 0:04 AM, mike todd said: I bought my FN-240 from an individual on a form 4 in FEB 2019 it cleared to my dealer here just b-4 x-mas On 1/19/2020 at 9:13 PM, POLLC said: From my personal collection on a Form 4 to an out of state FFL/SOT, sixty-two days. Alan dba POLLC FFL/SOT On 1/21/2020 at 11:48 PM, b_san said: Not for a transfer from an individual TO a dealer. Those are averaging 3-4 months, some less, some more. On 1/20/2020 at 0:04 AM, mike todd said: I bought my FN-240 from an individual on a form 4 in FEB 2019 it cleared to my dealer here just b-4 x-mas In 2019, the numbers seem to be all over the place for Individual->Dealer on paper F4 as reported above. Just on this thread, as short as 62 days and as long as ~10 months. Perhaps this is due to the couple months where error-free paper F4s specifically to Individuals were getting prioritized. Odd there is that much variability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLC Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 "All we have is our word and our name. Don't do anything to taint either one. Losing your word or tarnishing your name may only take a moment, but to reclaim your word and name may take a lifetime." Alan dba POLLC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRenegade86 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 5:02 PM, POLLC said: "All we have is our word and our name. Don't do anything to taint either one. Losing your word or tarnishing your name may only take a moment, but to reclaim your word and name may take a lifetime." Alan dba POLLC Another awesome quote. ... It's nice to see that transfer times from Individuals to Dealers are coming down, although there is still some room for improvement. Hopefully, ATF goes live with E-Form 4 this year. With the technology we have available today,10+ month transfers are...bullshit. This is 2020, not 1934. In Liberty, KristopherH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 b-san, sorry but individual to dealer in 3-4 months is nowhere close to the average reported. work the actual reported numbers and its more like 9 months overall. yes a few are moving faster, just like many form 1's and 4's to individuals. they are exceptions to the rule and not "normal". ALAN THOSE QUOTES ARE FANTASTIC! keep em coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpy Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, MontanaRenegade86 said: Hopefully, ATF goes live with E-Form 4 this year. With the technology we have available today,10+ month transfers are...bullshit. This is 2020, not 1934. In Liberty, KristopherH I agree with that completely Kristopher honestly I don’t understand why it takes more then a few weeks for us to get approvals... I mean if the IRS can figure out if they owe me money or if I owe them money in a few weeks why can’t the atf just stamp approved on a pice of paper after running a back ground check.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, mike todd said: b-san, sorry but individual to dealer in 3-4 months is nowhere close to the average reported. work the actual reported numbers and its more like 9 months overall. yes a few are moving faster, just like many form 1's and 4's to individuals. they are exceptions to the rule and not "normal". ALAN THOSE QUOTES ARE FANTASTIC! keep em coming. Mike I hate to tell you this but whoever is telling you 9 months is average or normal for a form 4 individual to dealer is lying or doesn't know what they're talking about. I've never had one take longer than 5 months (to the exact day) and most of my incoming form 4s are between 2.5-3 months. These are not exceptions, this is the norm. Feel free to ask around with other SOTs. Edited January 30, 2020 by b_san Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 (sigh) no winning this one, he knows all thus bets us weys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 My S&W 76 just showed up at my dealer it's been about 60 days after the individual i bought it from let me know his check had been cashed by the BATF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike todd Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I just had one of my form 4 guns to a dealer clear in 20 days ! things might be looking up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davester Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Answered my own question regarding transfer times for a Form 4 coming from individual to SOT. Just had a S&W 76 approved in 42 days and an UZI same deal in 40 days! Add 4-5 days for the approved paperwork to arrive at the sender's address. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasegunner Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Form 4 to Sot .....Just had two get approved , one in 5 weeks and one in 6 weeks and they were filed just before xmas. So times are coming down Edited February 25, 2020 by Greasegunner typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_san Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just had one approved on Friday at 24 days from the date they entered it in the system (27 from the day I mailed it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 i'm in two weeks waiting for local Sheriff Dept approval so i can send paperwork in to BATFE. Should i inquire about their progress, or is this a normal local law enforcement background time frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffshot Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 9:28 PM, 1981fj40 said: i'm in two weeks waiting for local Sheriff Dept approval so i can send paperwork in to BATFE. Should i inquire about their progress, or is this a normal local law enforcement background time frame? You don't wait on your sheriff anymore. You don't need his signature. You just send them the Copy #3 (CLEO copy) at the same time you send in Copies 1 and 2 to the ATF. Read the instructions on the Form 4 application to transfer. The instructions set it out clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981fj40 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 Thank you for that information,I was listening to the wrong people, should of looked it up myself. It will be sent first thing in the morning. thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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