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I am looking to buy a Pre-86 Fully Transferable M16 machine gun and I have a question of Concern?

Now with the Libtards at a feeding frenzy to Ban all of our Semi Auto's, because of these Antifa Leftist mass shooters, George Soros Funded by the way. 

Now if they do Ban our Semi Autos will they also come after our NFA machine-guns? This is a very expensive Hobby and to have a LibTard come and take away a $30K Colt M16 A2 would not be cool. Would the Machine Guns be Grandfathered? I just don't want to fork out all of this cash and then a year later have a POS Commie LibTard come and take it away from me.

I think that this is a Major Concern for all of us NFA owners.

 

Your thoughts?

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In the minds of the gun ban fools... is this simple fact, they believe no one     except the Government  should have guns.

The Liberal Progressive Socialist Party could care less what you paid for it.  They will never rest until ALL guns in    civilian hands are destroyed. One of their favorite sayings is

No one needs a gun like that. 

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We really have no way of knowing what will happen.

All we can do is remain in the fight and give them hell at every turn. 

-Kristopher

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bring scared of takin a loss hasn't ever made a man money... buy it if they make them illegal so what they can’t even prove more then like 10%-20% of the guns are even on the registry’s so they have no idea where most these guns are any ways.

Sounds like you’d just hand in your guns ... witch makes me think maybe owning firearms isn’t for you... on the account that the 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting and target shooting...

maybe you should buy a few old cars(intill they ban those too)

maybe some land (intill they take it from you for less than market value to build a highway)

maybe some gold or silver(intill they make it illegal to have that so they can buy it up and sell it back to boost the economy like they did once before)

Or just leave the money in a savings account ( intill they take every ones money and spread it around to make the world even)

every thing has risk associated with it.

don't be a slave because of fear live your life.

 

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WHAT HAPPENED THUMPY, DID YA LOOSE YER MIMI ?  MR 86 SAID IT ALL, NO ONE KNOWS.  HOW ANY CHANGE WOULD EFFECT YOU IS STRICTLY IN YOUR HANDS . and it wont come down to MONEY, if it gets that bad. the toughest thing to fight would be a grandfather clause forbidding any FUTURE transfers 9keep it and die with it) . which is what I see for both NFA and the EVIL semi's in the long run. effectiveness and results of any reactionary legislation is going to be placed on the INDIVIDUAL reactions at first, with the final results dependent on how many FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE SURVIVE.


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20 hours ago, Thumpy said:

bring scared of takin a loss hasn't ever made a man money... buy it if they make them illegal so what they can’t even prove more then like 10%-20% of the guns are even on the registry’s so they have no idea where most these guns are any ways.

Sounds like you’d just hand in your guns ... witch makes me think maybe owning firearms isn’t for you... on the account that the 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting and target shooting...

maybe you should buy a few old cars(intill they ban those too)

maybe some land (intill they take it from you for less than market value to build a highway)

maybe some gold or silver(intill they make it illegal to have that so they can buy it up and sell it back to boost the economy like they did once before)

Or just leave the money in a savings account ( intill they take every ones money and spread it around to make the world even)

every thing has risk associated with it.

don't be a slave because of fear live your life.

 

LOL....   I am afraid of Nothing and I am actually going to buy an M16 soon. I actually owned 3 M16's back in the early 2002 era. I owned a Colt AR15 Model 601, a Colt M16A1 and a Sendra XM15E2 Machine Gun and back then they were much cheaper. I picked up the Model-601 in Mint all original condition back in 2001 for only $9K and now its worth over $65K...  As for the items listed.. I own Gold, I own Land, I own Muscle Cars, and many Evil Black weapons. Worked in Law Enforcement for over 22 years and I have seen the 3am SWAT team raids on folks who never seen it coming. Its really Tough Talk saying that you will never turn in your guns until you get that 3am SWAT team raid. 

The LibTards are in Full Force right now and they want our guns. It would really suck though if someone like Hitlery Klinton got in Office, our guns would be long gone by now.

I don't live my life in fear and believe me, I will never turn in my guns.

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Last night, I saw upon the stair, a little man who wasn't there.  He wasn't there again today.  Gee, I wish he'd go away.  In reality, most gun owners would silently turn over their weapons and move on, knowing the alternative.  How many would give up their life style, wealth, and nonincarcerated freedom just to become a martyr?  Right now, President Trump is  the best hope you got.   NRA?  Who?  Who will come to your aid, if you make yourself a target of the US Government?  Better get up off your duff's and vote wisely.  That's about the only hope you got.

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Well said thumpy, you've come along nicely in a very short time! 

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20 hours ago, MindCrime said:

LOL....   I am afraid of Nothing and I am actually going to buy an M16 soon. I actually owned 3 M16's back in the early 2002 era. I owned a Colt AR15 Model 601, a Colt M16A1 and a Sendra XM15E2 Machine Gun and back then they were much cheaper. I picked up the Model-601 in Mint all original condition back in 2001 for only $9K and now its worth over $65K...  As for the items listed.. I own Gold, I own Land, I own Muscle Cars, and many Evil Black weapons. Worked in Law Enforcement for over 22 years and I have seen the 3am SWAT team raids on folks who never seen it coming. Its really Tough Talk saying that you will never turn in your guns until you get that 3am SWAT team raid. 

The LibTards are in Full Force right now and they want our guns. It would really suck though if someone like Hitlery Klinton got in Office, our guns would be long gone by now.

I don't live my life in fear and believe me, I will never turn in my guns.

20 hours ago, MindCrime said:

 

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/09/nj-gun-owners-are-storing-thousands-and-thousands-of-banned-gun-magazines-in-a-steel-vault.html

A New Jersey State Police spokesman said not a single large-capacity magazine has been turned in since the law went into effect nearly nine months ago.

Unjust laws will not be followed by the Just.

sure some will turn them in but not all.

Edited by Born loser...in Montana
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1 hour ago, Born loser...in Montana said:

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/09/nj-gun-owners-are-storing-thousands-and-thousands-of-banned-gun-magazines-in-a-steel-vault.html

A New Jersey State Police spokesman said not a single large-capacity magazine has been turned in since the law went into effect nearly nine months ago.

A long time ago, I knew a man who lived in New Jersey. He had an M1 Carbine that he was supposed to "turn in" during the 1990 "assault weapon" ban. He said "to hell with that" and kept it. 

I always wondered why NJ had a hard on for the Carbine. Somebody, my pal from NJ (I think), told me the state hated it because it was the rifle used to waste that commie bastard Che.

In Liberty,

Kristopher

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3 hours ago, MontanaRenegade86 said:

A long time ago, I knew a man who lived in New Jersey. He had an M1 Carbine that he was supposed to "turn in" during the 1990 "assault weapon" ban. He said "to hell with that" and kept it. 

I always wondered why NJ had a hard on for the Carbine. Somebody, my pal from NJ (I think), told me the state hated it because it was the rifle used to waste that commie bastard Che.

In Liberty,

Kristopher

Many determinations by our government  Bureau 's over the years,  have  completely 

violated Our  Constitutional  Rights and Principles. .. as written in

Our  Constitution and Bill of Rights. 

The last hope  for Freedom and Liberty... as written by the

Forefathers, lies  within  the 2nd Amendment . They could easily see taking on the World's  Super Power at the time ,if and only if the Citizenry are armed! & may I add  the current military arms of the Day.  

I would  like a back pack Nuc. for Christmas  Santa

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Well, it seems like you are worried about the price of the gun and how much you paid for it. I bought whatever machine guns I have because I like them and I consider them holy relics so they are priceless to me no matter what happens. I bought mine not as an investment but for the fun and historical factor. Buy what you like because you like it and don't worry about what if. Remember, at the end of the day, all we really have is today. Yesterday is gone never to be repeated and tomorrow is guaranteed to no one. Enjoy it and forget about the what ifs. I fully expect mine to be "worthless" one day because the registry will be frozen just like in Canada. I will enjoy mine while I can.

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16 hours ago, Schmeisser Guy said:

Remember, at the end of the day, all we really have is today. Yesterday is gone never to be repeated and tomorrow is guaranteed to no one. Enjoy it and forget about the what ifs. I fully expect mine to be "worthless" one day because the registry will be frozen just like in Canada. I will enjoy mine while I can.

Well said, Brother Schmeisser, well said. 

 

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MY BOTTOM LINE ON THE ISSUE? at 14 years of age I went under contract with whom so ever was "in charge" that I would abide by all the existing laws, try to be a POSITIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY and help who ever "honestly" needed it, be drug free and not consume alcohol in a way that was negative if at all, and never force myself or beliefs on others. in return I accepted the EXISTING LAWS and freedoms GAURENTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION with the right to stress free existence and the PURSUIT of happiness !  I consider ANY CHANGE or oppression that restricts the above an unlawful BREECH OF CONTRACT, and any such act VOIDS that agreement and I will act accordingly. in my case its a bit easier than for most as I have no heirs and am at the end of my cycle, but anything one attempts to force on me will result in an unpleasant response. while grocery shopping last night, I bought the first newspaper in more than 2 years. it was the "SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS" . the headlines exclaimed "GOV PATRICK BUCKING THE NRA" ! and underneath was a large pic of an obese Hispanic "mama" clutching a child with COW TEARS raining down her face. I have not had the heart to read it yet and am not sure I will, but it erased what little bit of comfort I had trying to live in "PEACE" in this great state of TEXAS! honestly deep down I had always believed if anything major occurred in DC that it would resist to no end and help protect that FREE PURSUIT, but I fear that the media has managed to feed the uneducated mass to the point of no return. AT EVERY NEWS CAST OR IN ARTICLE'S IN THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE "PRO GUN PEOPLE" MUST GO SO DEEP ARGUING TOTALLY AGAINST INSTANT BACK GROUND CHECKS! THEY should FOCUS on the few points ANYBODY can understand, like "YOU WONT BE ABLE TO LOAN A FIREARM to your kids or relatives and the like. I have no problem with them REQUIRED at all organized events or when offering for sale to the general public etc. BUT THE COMPLETE RESISTANCE TO EVERYTHING SEEMS UNREASONABLE AND IS DOOMING US! MIKE

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7 minutes ago, mike todd said:

MY BOTTOM LINE ON THE ISSUE? at 14 years of age I went under contract with whom so ever was "in charge" that I would abide by all the existing laws, try to be a POSITIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY and help who ever "honestly" needed it, be drug free and not consume alcohol in a way that was negative if at all, and never force myself or beliefs on others. in return I accepted the EXISTING LAWS and freedoms GAURENTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION with the right to stress free existence and the PURSUIT of happiness !  I consider ANY CHANGE or oppression that restricts the above an unlawful BREECH OF CONTRACT, and any such act VOIDS that agreement and I will act accordingly. in my case its a bit easier than for most as I have no heirs and am at the end of my cycle, but anything one attempts to force on me will result in an unpleasant response. while grocery shopping last night, I bought the first newspaper in more than 2 years. it was the "SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS" . the headlines exclaimed "GOV PATRICK BUCKING THE NRA" ! and underneath was a large pic of an obese Hispanic "mama" clutching a child with COW TEARS raining down her face. I have not had the heart to read it yet and am not sure I will, but it erased what little bit of comfort I had trying to live in "PEACE" in this great state of TEXAS! honestly deep down I had always believed if anything major occurred in DC that it would resist to no end and help protect that FREE PURSUIT, but I fear that the media has managed to feed the uneducated mass to the point of no return. AT EVERY NEWS CAST OR IN ARTICLE'S IN THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE "PRO GUN PEOPLE" MUST GO SO DEEP ARGUING TOTALLY AGAINST INSTANT BACK GROUND CHECKS! THEY should FOCUS on the few points ANYBODY can understand, like "YOU WONT BE ABLE TO LOAN A FIREARM to your kids or relatives and the like. I have no problem with them REQUIRED at all organized events or when offering for sale to the general public etc. BUT THE COMPLETE RESISTANCE TO EVERYTHING SEEMS UNREASONABLE AND IS DOOMING US! MIKE

Matthew 7:1-6

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An interesting article that elaborates more on the, What If?

https://the burning platform.com/2019/09/07/dear-mr-security-agent-when-it-comes-to-gun-confiscation/

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We go deep because we are against being harassed, inconvenienced, being put on "lists" as law abiding people dealing with inanimate objects that cause harm to no one.  Criminals create the harm and chaos so the burden should be carried with them, not us.   They are the ones that need to be identified so that people don't sell or transfer dangerous items, allow them to vote, etc. by way of adding this information to their identification and putting the burden on them, not us.   Of course that's not how it works currently, and that's by design to keep the masses in check.  Elites are planning your life, not theirs.  They will take away your straws to your guns and everything in between to put us all back in chains. 

How common are shootings during hunting season or at gun shows (OK except the SAR show)?  They are not, so it's not about the guns, nor the people that legally enjoy them.  While there are always felons at gun shows, most folks know who they are and they are kept an eye on. 

 

 

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On 9/8/2019 at 7:30 AM, mike todd said:

MY BOTTOM LINE ON THE ISSUE? at 14 years of age I went under contract with whom so ever was "in charge" that I would abide by all the existing laws, try to be a POSITIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY and help who ever "honestly" needed it, be drug free and not consume alcohol in a way that was negative if at all, and never force myself or beliefs on others. in return I accepted the EXISTING LAWS and freedoms GAURENTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION with the right to stress free existence and the PURSUIT of happiness !  I consider ANY CHANGE or oppression that restricts the above an unlawful BREECH OF CONTRACT, and any such act VOIDS that agreement and I will act accordingly. in my case its a bit easier than for most as I have no heirs and am at the end of my cycle, but anything one attempts to force on me will result in an unpleasant response. while grocery shopping last night, I bought the first newspaper in more than 2 years. it was the "SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS" . the headlines exclaimed "GOV PATRICK BUCKING THE NRA" ! and underneath was a large pic of an obese Hispanic "mama" clutching a child with COW TEARS raining down her face. I have not had the heart to read it yet and am not sure I will, but it erased what little bit of comfort I had trying to live in "PEACE" in this great state of TEXAS! honestly deep down I had always believed if anything major occurred in DC that it would resist to no end and help protect that FREE PURSUIT, but I fear that the media has managed to feed the uneducated mass to the point of no return. AT EVERY NEWS CAST OR IN ARTICLE'S IN THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE "PRO GUN PEOPLE" MUST GO SO DEEP ARGUING TOTALLY AGAINST INSTANT BACK GROUND CHECKS! THEY should FOCUS on the few points ANYBODY can understand, like "YOU WONT BE ABLE TO LOAN A FIREARM to your kids or relatives and the like. I have no problem with them REQUIRED at all organized events or when offering for sale to the general public etc. BUT THE COMPLETE RESISTANCE TO EVERYTHING SEEMS UNREASONABLE AND IS DOOMING US! MIKE

I  respectfully  disagree. 

Too much  has been given already. 

DON'T GIVE 

NOT ONE INCH.  

 

Edited by Born loser...in Montana

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The only reason they take people's guns is because we allow it. this BS has been doing on and the fight against it has been little or next to nothing. 

I believe they will come after the full autos eventually but not now. they are basically after the type of guns use for these mass shootings.

But i told my friends at the range that i will never give up any of my guns at i mean it. we will all be in the news if they show up at my house.

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DONT GIVE AN INCH? HELL THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE 100's  OF FEET  ON OR ABOUT JAN / FEB 2020. question is ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK? when the furor started following the BOBBY KENNEDY PURGE. I dug out my complete collection of AMERICAN RIFLEMAN. all the BACK AND FORTH BANTER WAS EXACTLY THE SAME FROM DAY ONE . following WW I it started and has been steady since. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT BY OEDER OF PRESIDENT  WILSON, GENERAL BLACK JACK PERSHING DEPLOYED TROOPS AND USED 1917 BROWNINGS AGAINST THE VETERANS IN DC THAT WERE CAMPED OUT DEMANDING PAYMENT OF THE BENEFITS PROMISED TO THEM FOR SERVING IN THE WAR? the thought of an armed citizenry just scares the hell out of them and always will because once they get it done there is no way to resist.  most of you know one of the first things HITLER did after winning his seat in the REICHSTAG was propose total gun seizure's simply because he was proven to be evil , but had he not started the war it would just be another buried piece of history. my illness forces me to sit for long periods so I watch way too many movies and I focus on action or disaster plots. when it starts going downhill the first question is "IS THERE A GUN IN THE HOUSE?" hell the last time I had a traffic stop and they asked about a weapon in the truck, we found 4 glocks a 642 S+W a seecamp 32 and the AUG and I'm sure we missed one or two. he just couldn't understand why I had one in a pocket on each door and had never seen or heard of the AUG and the form 4 might as well been in HEBREW.  it took longer than an hour to confirm they were not stolen and 2 more units magically appeared. the drivers never approached just took up tactical positions. COULD YOU SAY I WAS READY? when asked why I had it all I gave my standard response." SO I CAN DECIDE WHEN AND IF I GET HANDCUFFED" NOW is that an inch or would it be less?


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Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they rebelled they cannot become conscious” — George Orwell

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On 9/4/2019 at 9:35 PM, Thumpy said:

bring scared of takin a loss hasn't ever made a man money... buy it if they make them illegal so what they can’t even prove more then like 10%-20% of the guns are even on the registry’s so they have no idea where most these guns are any ways.

Sounds like you’d just hand in your guns ... witch makes me think maybe owning firearms isn’t for you... on the account that the 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting and target shooting...

maybe you should buy a few old cars(intill they ban those too)

maybe some land (intill they take it from you for less than market value to build a highway)

maybe some gold or silver(intill they make it illegal to have that so they can buy it up and sell it back to boost the economy like they did once before)

Or just leave the money in a savings account ( intill they take every ones money and spread it around to make the world even)

every thing has risk associated with it.

don't be a slave because of fear live your life.

 

Note- The governments currently take land under eminent domain. Some areas demand Historic cars driven meet EPA standard( keeps them off the road). You may own a home but you DO NOT own mining rights and can lose your home at any time and that has happened.  The only control you have is the VOTE and if you don't mine counts twice!

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