CWS Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) i have an IMI Galil in .223/5.56, the place where I got it from stated this rifle was made in 1969, however I have my doubts. I've read as much as I could on the forum and on other forums about the SN and model. Can anyone help about the info on my rifle? IMI Galil S.Auto, Model 392 SN: AAL-208XXXX, Wood hand guard, bipod, no bayonet lug, has the wire cutter, and folding stock. no S in the serial number and no box either. all the markings are in english, no hebrew any info will help Edited July 26, 2018 by CWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy H Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 NO Galil's were imported into the US until the 80's ... I watched that GB auction ..... and LAUGHED at that 1969 comment ....... TOTALLY FALSE. You could have save OVER $1000 and made an offer on mine I am considering selling mine ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Ya kind of what I figured since the galil was only invented in the late 60's. I didn't pay over $2k for the rifle so I'm not out that much money. Any idea on when the rifle was made? I know it was imported by Action Arms (out of business in 1989) so I know its from the Pre-90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy H Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Here is some OLD Galil info collected many years ago .......... hope this helps ..... _______________________________________________________________________________________ My Galil Picture album >>> http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/Galil/ My Valmet Picture Album >>> http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/Valmet/ ___________________________________________________________________________ This Galil Info was collected many ...... many years ago by Yog (in Alaska)[Galil Expert & Collector] .... as reported to him by Galil owners..... Version 1.3 - 12 April 99 This is a compilation of Galil data that has been posted on these boards, from my personal experiences, and from some very helpful Galil owners who responded to my Galil Questionnaire. This is a living document and is constantly being updated and corrected. The thoroughness of this list is a direct result of all its contributors. AR model rifles: generally have plastic handguards, no bipod, and no carrying handle. MR rifles generally have bayonet lugs and AA rifles generally do not. ARM model rifles: generally have wooden handguards, a bipod, and a carrying handle. Some have bayonet lugs and some don't. Here we go: MR = Magnum Research - 1st Galil importer AA = Action Arms - 2nd Galil importer and went out of business in 1989. GS = Springfield Armory - 3rd Galil importer (between 25 July 91 & 31 July 92) 5.56mm Magnum Research Rifles MR no model # (appears to be a Model 361 but is not marked) ? 5.56mm AR, 18 bbl.,bayonet lug on barrel, no bipod or bipod attachment point, M-16 style flash suppressor, has spring loaded firing pin,rifle is stamped Galil; above scope mounting notch. Serial # in MR0051x range. (1 rifle reported) MR 361 - 5.56mm AR, 18" bbl., 1-12" twist, bayonet lug on bbl., bipod lug milled off gas block,M-16 style flash suppressor. Early models had a "straight trigger" as found on Valmets. Serial # in MR00064x range. (1 rifle reported) MR 372 - 5.56mm ARM, 18" bbl., 1-12" twist, bayonet lug on bbl., bipod, M-16 style flash suppressor. Serial #s from MR0028xx to MR003xxx. (3 rifles reported) 7.62mm Magnum Research Rifles MR 331 - 7.62mm AR, 20" bbl., 1-12; twist, bayonet lug on barrel, bipod attachment milled off gas block, M-16 style flash suppressor. Serial # in MR04xxx to MR046xx range. Caliber is marked 7.62/.308;. (2 rifles reported) MR 332 - 7.62mm ARM, 20" bbl., bayonet lug on bbl., M-16 style flash suppressor. (0 rifles reported) MR 332 - 7.62mm AR, 16.5" bbl., no bayonet lug, no bipod or attachment, plastic handguard, M-16 style flash suppressor. Serial # in MR069xx range. Appears to have been a "Special Run" of rifles. (1 rifle reported) It appears that all MR Serial #s are located behind the rear handguard (vertically) on the "left" side of the rifle. There appears to be transitional variants of Model 331, 332, 361, and 372 rifles during the MR/AA change over period. The Model 331, 332, & 361 rifles as imported by AA hold true for the descriptions listed under their MR brethren. The only difference is they contained milled out; areas on the receiver where the MR importation marks and serial # prefixes have been removed and the AA data added. Some Model 372 ARM rifles have been reported with more noticeable differences. They appear to be an AR/ARM combination. Their features are as follows: Model 372, 5.56mm, 18" bbl., 1-12" rifling twist,black plastic handguard, bayonet lug, bipod attachment point w/o bipod, Galil style flash suppressor, and no carrying handle. Additionally, they have a shallow "milled out area" on the left side of the receiver where the MR importation marks and serial #prefixes have been removed and the AA data added. It appears these rifles were originally MR rifles, but were "redone" to have AA markings. The Serial #s are in the AAL3xxx range and are located behind the rear handguard (vertically) on the "left" side of the rifle. 5.56mm Action Arms Rifles AA 361 ; 5.56mm AR (transitional), 18; bbl., 1-12; twist, bayonet lug on barrel, no bipod, Galil style flash suppressor. Serial # in AAL000xxx to AAL011xx range and located vertically behind the rear handguard. These rifles are not marked Galil and have milled out areas on their receivers. (3 rifles reported) AA 372 - 5.56mm ARM, 18" bbl., 1-12" twist, bayonet lug, bipod, M-16 style (early) flash suppressor or Galil style (later) flash suppressor. Serial # in AA03xxx to AAL207750x range. Early rifles had bayonet lugs on a ring pinned onto the bbl. and later rifles have them attached to the front end of the gas block. (6 rifles reported) AA 386 - 5.56mm AR, 16" bbl., 1-12" twist, no bayonet lug, no bipod attachment point, Galil style flash suppressor. Serial # in AAL207765x to AAL209xxxx range. (4 rifles reported) AA 392 - 5.56mm ARM, 16" bbl., 1-12" twist, no bayonet lug, Galil style flash suppressor. Serial #s in AAL207910x to AAL207947x range. (3 rifles reported) AA 392S - 5.56mm "ARM Sporter", 16" bbl., 1-7" twist, wood handguard, carry handle, no bayonet lug, no bipod, but has bipod attachment pt., no night sights, threaded muzzle. (1 rifle reported) AA 397S - 5.56mm "AR Sporter", 16" bbl., 1-7" twist, black plastic handguard, no carry handle,no bayonet lug, no bipod attachment pt., no night sights, threaded muzzle. Serial # in AAL210xxxx to AAL21005xx range. (3 rifles reported) AA 710S 5.56mm ;ARM Sporter 16; bbl., 1-7; twist, wood thumb-hole stock, wood ARM hand guard, no carrying handle, no night sights, threaded muzzle, bipod attachment point. Serial # in AAL 210022x range. (1 rifle reported) 7.62mm Action Arms Rifles AA 331 7.62mm AR (transitional), 20 bbl., 1-12; twist, bayonet lug on barrel, no bipod or bipod attachment point, Galil style flash suppressor. Serial # in AAL049xx range and located vertically behind the rear handguard. These rifles are not marked Galil and have milled out areas on their receivers. (3 rifles reported) AA 323 - 7.62mm ARM, 18" bbl., 1-12" twist, no bayonet lug, bipod, Galil style flash suppressor,Serial # in AAL2089xxx to AAL2094xxx range. (4 rifles reported) AA 329 - 7.62mm AR, 18" bbl., no bayonet lug, no bipod attachment, Galil style flash suppressor,Serial # in AAL209094x range. (1 rifle reported) AA 332 - 7.62mm ARM, 20" bbl., 1-12? twist, bayonet lug on bbl., bipod, Galil style flash suppressor, Serial # in AAL2078xxx range. (2 rifles reported) There is one unique transitional rifle reported with the following characteristics: Serial # in MR076xx range and located vertically behind the rear handguard, not stamped Galil, but imported by Action Arms. Yes, it has the MR prefix. Box and paperwork are dated 1992. The receiver does have milled out areas. AA 329S - 7.62mm "AR Sporter", 18" bbl., black plastic handguard, thumbhole stock, no bayonet lug, no bipod attachment point, no night sights, threaded muzzle. Serial # in AAL209xxxx range. (2 rifles reported) 5.56mm Springfield Armory Rifles GS 386 - 5.56mm AR. Serial # in GS2095xxx. No "S" after Model #. (Only 1 rifle reported). GS 710-S - 5.56mm "ARM Sporter", 16" barrel, 1-7" twist, wood thumb-hole stock, wood ARM hand guard, no carrying handle, no night sights. Serial # in GS2100xxx range. (1 rifle reported) There is also a GS 710 rifle reported without the S stamped after the model number and without the GS Serial # prefix. Serial # in 210020x. 7.62mm Springfield Armory Rifles GS 329-S - 7.62mm "AR Sporter", 18" barrel, 1-12" twist, wood thumb-hole stock, black plastic hand guard, no night sights. Serial # in GS2099xxx range. (1 rifle reported) It appears that all AA (except for transitional models) & all GS Serial #s are located above the scope mounting "notch". All Magnum Research rifles are Pre-89. Most appear to be Kalifornia legal, but there is at least one documented MR rifle which is stamped Galil. Some Action Arms rifles are Pre-89 and some are Post-89. All Springfield Armory rifles are Post-89. (CDNN was a known vendor.) Springfield imported less than 1000 Galil rifles between 7-25-91 and 7-31-92. The difference between Pre & Post rifles is as follows: Post-89 rifles have the letter "S" stamped (sometimes crudely) AFTER the model number. On some rifles the letter "S" was added after the rifle was imported and on other rifles the "S" was added when the rifle was manufactured. This is not to be confused with "S. Auto Galil" stamped onto the receiver. Post '89 rifles have thumbhole stocks, no bayonet lugs, no bipods, no night sights, and no flash suppressors. Some Galil rifles (appear to be only Magnum Research imports) do not have the word "Galil" stamped onto the receiver and these rifles are called "Kalifornia Legal" and bring a premium price. Early MR imported rifles did not come with Tritium night sights or spring loaded firing pins. Owners could send in their bolts for firing pin spring refit and request their night sights. It is believed that the U.S. Government was in the process of approving tritium for importation at that time. Serial #s appear to start low in MR rifles and reach almost 7000. The reported low MR # is 005xx and the reported high MR # is 69xx. There have been no rifles reported in the MR5xxx range. Serial #s appear to be in prefixes: 2077xxx, 208xxxx, 209xxxx & 210xxxx for AA rifles. Serial #s appear to be in prefixes: 2099xxx & 2100xxx for GS rifles. The first 100 MR imported Galils arrived with commemorative paperwork signifying their special status to their owners. There is a 10 Yr. Anniversary commemorative sticker attached to the box of "appropriate" AA import rifles. Plastic handguards are now available for ARM style rifles. There are several types of IMI scope mounts. The original (best & expensive) utilizes a lever and attaches onto the scope mounting "groove" on the left side of the rifle. This scope mount comes in three variants. One variant is designed for STANAG scopes, another variant is designed for a 1" tube scope, and the final variant is designed for a "channel" for ACOGs or M-16 style scopes. The cheaper scope mount also attaches onto the scope mounting "groove" and is tightened with a "wheel" or "screw". There is also a scope mount designed for AN-PVS/2 night vision devices. Additionally, GG&G manufactures and sells a Galil scope mount. Both plastic "Orlite" and steel magazines are available for the 5.56mm rifles. Steel magazines are available in 12, 35, and 50 round capacities. Orlite magazines are available in 35 round capacities. South Africa also manufactures a 35 round steel magazine and a plastic 35 round magazine. There are two types of M-16 magazine adapters designed for the 5.56mm rifles. One type was designed by/for MR and the other by/for AA. As far as can be determined, the only difference is that the MR version has a "safety catch" to prevent accidentally discharging the adapter while changing magazines. There are 20 and 25 round 7.62mm steel magazines available. The 25 round magazines appear to be originally designed for the Galil by IMI. The 20 round magazines appear to be modified M-14 magazines. Valmet ejection port buffers will not fit Galil rifles. There is a IMI Blank Firing Adapter that was available for the 5.56mm rifles. Many serious students of firearms consider the Galil to be the "ultimate" AK rifle. Galils are manufactured from/with a "milled" receiver as opposed to a "stamped" receiver for most Valmets and AK series weapons. Milled receivers are heavier, stronger, and much more expensive to manufacture than stamped receivers. Some people consider milled receivers unnecessary due to the success of the stamped receiver guns and the weight and cost of the milled steel. Perhaps,one should examine the pros and cons of each and arrive at their own conclusions. A Valmet rifle is an excellent rifle if someone did not want to incur the weight & expense of the Galil. It appears there were approximately 7,000 - 9,000 Semi-Automatic Galil rifles imported (total). This included both calibers and all three importers. Perhaps the most intriguing piece of information I received regards South African Galil rifles. An informed source has related that there were about 130 Semi-Automatic South African Galil receivers imported into the U.S. He stated that they were receivers only and had to be assembled with other Galil parts. Many thanks to all the Galil owners who have shared their information and experiences. 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CWS Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 I've read that info and Its good information. I've pretty much figured its a Pre-1989 weapon, no "s" anywhere on the rifle except the S.Auto portion, even thought my prefix is 208. its an AAL SN to start and handguards are wood instead of plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Tactical Inc Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Remove the handguards and see if there’s a date on the barrel near the receiver. The earliest year that I’ve seen on a genuine IMI semi-auto Galil is 1981. Ben Edited July 30, 2018 by Nitzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
329 Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 4:57 PM, CWS said: i have an IMI Galil in .223/5.56, the place where I got it from stated this rifle was made in 1969, however I have my doubts. I've read as much as I could on the forum and on other forums about the SN and model. Can anyone help about the info on my rifle? IMI Galil S.Auto, Model 392 SN: AAL-208XXXX, Wood hand guard, bipod, no bayonet lug, has the wire cutter, and folding stock. no S in the serial number and no box either. all the markings are in english, no hebrew any info will help This is an easy question; as I have many Galils and spent a lot of time doing research - taking to many people all over. Your 16inch barreled Action Arms "ARM model" import is probably 1987. Just look at the date code on the barrel. Depending where it is on the rotation (down by where it screws into the receiver); you might have to take the hand guard, along with the gas tube off. It has either a 86 or 87 or 88 (I betting it is 87'. Let us know what you got; along with any other questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archmark Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Here's Mine... Edited November 24, 2019 by archmark Trouble Posting Pics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archmark Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Do The "Galil SAR/AR Bayonet Lug, Barrel Mounted" listed on Apex Gun Parts fit both the 5.56 & 7.62 or just one or the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGG Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 Presume as a M392 that the serial number is between 20865XX and 20868XX!!! My data is much more specific than Yog's (markings, magazine types, manuals, boxes, etc.), but I have very few dates. Agree with 329--- 1987--- as I have 20894XX as 02-88. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric harry Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Sir, i have a SAR Galil with no brand, the only markings are: 1972 at the rear sight, left side/ 68X rightside near ejection port / P800478 serial number. Any information om this,, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGG Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Eric harry said: Sir, i have a SAR Galil with no brand, the only markings are: 1972 at the rear sight, left side/ 68X rightside near ejection port / P800478 serial number. Any information om this,, thanks. That SN (less the "P") is generally for a pre-86 DS, Magnum Research import in the U.S.--- Model MR 365 (SAR)--- and stamped "GALIL" over "SAR", and "5.56mm/.223" over "IMI" over "ISRAEL" on the left receiver--- and have the "M16-type" flash hider!!! The left rear sight marking is generally the last 4 digits of the SN. Since you are in the Philippines, there will probably be no importer markings--- please verify the markings/flash hider, or post pictures. Tony Edited March 26, 2020 by AGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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