please forgive my tech skills with this danged box i use so much, but I can never figure out how to capture and quote in these forums. KRISTOPHER IE;montana renegade, I cant help it , I just have to respond to your post in this thread. 999,99% of the time me and you come from the same side of the leaf we eat breath and struggle much the same and unlike me you seem to think things out b-4 you type. I have zero tolerance with inconsiderate IDIOTS also and by your description he fit there pretty well. however ,(sigh) I dont believe its ever ok to get in the middle of a buyer and seller no matter what! or how long you have to wait. I learned this stuff at a very early age and many times other buyers were 30 to 40 years my senior at gun shows most have money and are used to doing what the want. I have been cuffed maybe 12 times, booked and charged 7 times and not proud of any. 5-ag assault 2 attempt murder. all 5 ag assaults happened at gun shows or in the parking lot. during a fri nite setup a vendor (a local church minister) was unloading a huge estate load and i bought most of what he had brought spending more than $8k. some of that was left behind the table until sat morning he was bringing more and I brought a lot more money. he helped me truck goods to my place and we talked about what was coming and made several more deals for the next day. I always try to be first to arrive and i just sat at his table until he came. when he landed i paid him for what was behind the table, stacked it in the isle to truck and started on the new stuff which was another full pickup load he would bring out what we talked about, I would look and he marked down what we did. as I was looking in a box he handed me, another dealer reached in a pulled stuff out of the box I had my hands in and he asked the seller how much is this? I turned to him and said we did this last night and if anything is left when I am done he can deal for it , but only when I am finished. he gave me a dirty look and muttered something then turned to my boxes (several) stacked in front of the table already paid for. as nice as I could , I explained all that was paid for and belonged to me. he then stood up and took something out of the box i was in and I had to say it again. the third time, I asked the seller to try and tell him what was going on, but all he did was the der in the head light look and shrug his shoulders he was lost.. so now it was up to me, when I got in his face, he started slobbering spittle that I did not have a monopoly on things and need to back off. one last time , I pulled out my notes about the new stuff and said there is a lot more we didnt talk about and that would be first come first served but all the previous stuff, I had first right of refusal b-4 he could look. he slapped my note book and on the way up shoved me so hard I fell on my ass. I could not get up with out turning to use my hands and knees to stand but he jumped on my back . I cant relate blow by blow, but he ended up with a large gash from his right nostril across the eye and at the forehead it went to the bone about 2". mesa police was security and they detained both of us while he asked people the facts. it was agreed it was mutual combat and both were at fault so he went away and I continued with the goods. while questioning us paramedics came and out a large compress on his right side and he went behind his tables. about an hour later I could see his wife and arrived, looked him over and the paramedics returned and took him away. this all started about 7:15 am. at just after 1 pm 2 mesa pd officers came and said he was injured worse than thought and I was under arrest for ag assault. the officer hired by show people showed me his interview sheets from people and all said I was always there and a grenade with the pin pulled. remarked yes all THOSE people dont care for me because I am the main competition when buying. I said ask other people not present what I really do at the shows. buying tables just to display unique MG's , helping get the right piece or grading things etc. at the prelim hearing that officer that decided i should be charged had asked around and the majority of the show people had I respect for me and he would testify to that at the trial. when the prosecutor talked to him, the all went to the judges chamber and it was decided to drop the charges without prejudice . i can assure you hudreds of times the last 60 years I let many treasures go away that i could have chimed in I will give you more and bit my tongue to keep it fair and square. KRISTOPHER , dont get mad at me PLEASE ! its just the way I was taught to be! cheers all