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Tall Pine: I understand Exactly what you're saying. However, I can assure you that this Ad is Definitely a Scam and that johnk is the same Nigerian scammer going through profile after profile after profile... There are a lot of New Guys posting each day and I do Not Mark them Unless I'm Certain. I have specific criteria that I use and it works very well. IM/PM me and I will give you my phone number and explain how I know, for sure, that this Is a Scam. Cannot post it here for everyone to see as this would serve to educate these Scammers and make them much more difficult to spot. I've marked a Bunch of them so far and have Not been wrong yet. This may appear Rude and Uncouth but it Is the Best way to make sure that nobody gets Scammed. Sure, you can leave the Uninitiated to Darwinian fate but I would rather save them once or twice and trust that they will learn after being "Inoculated" against Scammers.

No problem coolhand - we all gotta look out for each other!

No problem with your question - I'd guess it Was re-finished. However, I am Guessing. Ruben will Answer the burning question IF you Call him! Just trying to help an obvious FNG (New Guy) out here... If you'd like Results (i.e. Answers to your questions), why not contact him at his Posted E-mail and/or Phone Numbers? He is NOT following his Ads - he Posts and then waits for contact. He is Not actively viewing his Ads after he posts them. Here is Another way of saying it - Ruben does Not actually know you are asking him questions! So contact him!

You need to Call Ruben. He is Not following this Ad. Direct communication is always best when contact is available, as in this case. Call him and you will get the info you seek. I've done one deal with him and it was professional in all respects. He has a very good reputation in our community because he has earned it over many years with tons of satisfied customers...

Be Very Careful!! Another, New, Unknown User posting… Demand Clear images with your email address written on a small piece of paper laying right under the DIAS. Also get a copy of the, supposed, current Transfer Form and verify All Info with NFA Branch - they will tell you if any of the info does Not match. Talk to the poster on the phone to determine if he has a Nigerian or other strange accent. Does he know anything about guns and the transfer process? Is he calling from a weird VOIP Google Phone or some other non-standard modality? Get Verifiable References from this Board or another reputable site - do Not rely on an easily stolen Identity from Gun-Broker, etc… Be smart and save your $$$. Don't become the latest victim of Scum-Bag Scammers!

Be Very Careful!! Another, New, Unknown User posting… Demand Clear images with your email address written on a small piece of paper laying right on top of the Gun. Also get a copy of the, supposed, current Transfer Form and verify All Info with NFA Branch - they will tell you if any of the info does Not match. Talk to the poster on the phone to determine if he has a Nigerian or other strange accent. Does he know anything about guns and the transfer process? Is he calling from a weird VOIP Google Phone or some other non-standard modality? Get Verifiable References from this Board or another reputable site - do Not rely on an easily stolen Identity from Gun-Broker, etc… Be smart and save your $$$. Don't become the latest victim of Scum-Bag Scammers!

No, not joking at all. And the fact that you refuse to recognize the serious nature of the issues being discussed is just Sad. Someone will get their Ass Fried over a misunderstanding involving the fact that they would be creating a Post-Sample when they believe that they are OK with a Transferable Sear. IM/PM communication does NO good in this instance. This demands Open Discussion which has been proceeding here just fine. You getting all upset about this is, simply, Crazy Retarded. The OP recognizes the issues and continues to discuss the possibilities. You are suggesting that we let any, hapless, individual fall victim to their ignorance of what BATFE would prosecute as an NFA violation. As always, Ignorance is No Defense when one has violated the law. Would be the same as if a Blind individual were crossing a busy road and we all would pull them back if they were about to be hit by a Bus… Apparently, you'd opt to just let them step-off the curb. 99% of people on this thread, including the OP, agree with me - guess you're the "Lone Voice of Reason…"

No - that is Not the Case! Even the Original Poster recognizes the Gray Area of his proposed use and he specifically asked for further discussion. Here is a Quote from the OP: "That being the case for further discussion I re-post the ad here: with a change in number of guns left to sell."

Absolutely! Someone new to NFA could get Burned, Big Time, and used as the Proverbial Example!

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No, Not Defensive. Irritated as Hell, would be a much better phrase to describe what I feel, and adequately conveyed, when you persisted in your unfounded doubt despite Proof to the contrary. You obviously did Not read the thread nor did you seem to understand the obvious, even after it was detailed for you. That often causes people to become upset and rightly so. I'm not defending Buddy. He's deleted my Ads whenever I've forgotten one of the rules and I did not enjoy that, however, I screwed-up and I learned very quickly how to post properly. In the end, he kept Order and Crushed a Ton of Scammers, saving untold Dollars and Misery in the process. So MOMO, you may Hate Buddy, however, his actions speak volumes and I'd have to admit he has been a steadfast Friend to our community… Sure he's often Cranky like a Drill Instructor but his training might just save your ass (i.e. $$$$$) And if you wonder why Buddy might be a bit Harsh on occasion, just re-read your posts and multiply that by a thousand - you'd be pissed-off as well. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but sometimes a swift kick to the ass can be a very kind way to wake someone up sufficiently such that they learn from their mistakes. If you like this board, then you owe gratitude to Andy Albert and David Albert and, oh yeah, Buddy as well...

Dude… So Obvious that this is a Scam!! How could you miss it?! I have Not called Anyone a Scammer that was NOT. 100% ON POINT, Because I don't call it unless I'm Sure. So before you begin Judging me, you may want to Fact-Check and Educate yourself a bit... IT IS A SCAM AND YOU ARE WRONG FOR ACTING AS IF WE SHOULD NOT PROFILE!! HOPE YOU'RE NOT WORKING FOR TSA OR LE!! GOD FORBID WE WERE NOT PC - BAD GUYS MIGHT GET THEIR FEELINGS HURT!! OH NO!! IF ANYONE IS A DELTA BRAVO - THAT WOULD BE YOU… Tell you what, you feel so bad for Nigerian Scammer, FredM (Just one of his many Profiles) - Wire him the $2300 and make yourself and all of us, Poor Sinners, feel better.

Look, MOMO, I don't know what else to tell you… Buddy is Obviously here and he IS Definitely Moderating, regardless of whether or Not his profile indicates that… Let's examine the evidence… As quoted, AGAIN, Buddy makes it very Clear that he is continuing to Moderate on the New Sturm: "I can work 'behind the scenes' ....... PLUS the new tools will cut down my workload here .... By 95%" Still don't believe it??? Well, let's see what the Owner of Sturm, Andy Albert, had to say on 11 Jan 2016: "As to the question about Buddy, he is still here and is applying his years of internet gun site info to helping weed out scammers behind the scenes, while enjoying a much deserved vacation from the day to day runnings of the site." I know, without any doubt, that Buddy has the ability to Lock, Move and Delete Ads. He is also able to inactivate Scammer Profiles and Block IPs, etc… Not sure what You call that but it is, generally, referred to as Moderating. Might have helped if you skimmed through this thread a bit before asking what was answered more than once… Rant off.

See Buddy's comments, quoted below, from 12 Jan 2016. Buddy is still here, Moderating and Posting Ads. His style of Moderation is now more Covert than on the prior rendition of Sturm.

He already knows he's Done. Same Scammer using different names… droillz, FredM, jimmrazorr - just to name a few recent ones… Changes names as soon as he's marked but it's really easy to spot, and smell, this steaming Pile of Shit a mile away. He was communicating until I asked for the image with my email on a piece of paper on the gun. Radio Silence ever since. Gets them whenever they promise to prove themselves. Never fear, the Idiot will be back very soon under a new name and will be flushed-out again.

Just called him out by IM and he replied (using very poor grammar) that he would provide proof. So I told him to send an image of the, supposed, MP5K-PDW with a piece of paper, with my email written on it, laying right on top of the gun. Never gonna happen!

Guys: Another, New, Unknown User posting… Demand Clear images with your email address written on a small piece of paper laying right on top of the Gun and right under the Sear. Also get a copy of the, supposed, current Transfer Form and verify All Info with NFA Branch - they will tell you if any of the info does Not match. Talk to the poster on the phone to determine if he has a Nigerian or other strange accent. Does he know anything about guns and the transfer process? Is he calling from a weird VOIP Google Phone or some other non-standard modality? Get Verifiable References from this Board or another reputable site - do Not rely on an easily stolen Identity from Gun-Broker, etc… Be smart and save your $$$. Don't become the latest victim of Scum-Bag Scammers!

SCAM CONFIRMED: Five days later and "droillz" has Not been back or tried to defend his Advertisement after my Post calling him out. Probably an experienced, Nigerian Scammer that has already had several profiles Burned on Sturm and now just abandons them to create a new one rather than try to defend himself once he's been marked. Be careful, I'm sure this Douche-Bag, "droillz" will be posting again soon under a new name...

SCAM CONFIRMED: "FredM" is "Following" his SCAM Ad that he posted right after he joined yet he has Not been back or even tried to defend his Advertisement after receiving my Post calling him out. Since he is following this, All posts below his Scam will be emailed directly to him. And he has Not responded to my IM which also generates an email directly to him. Probably an experienced, Nigerian Scammer that has already had several profiles Burned on Sturm and now just abandons them to create a new one rather than try to defend himself once he's been marked. Be careful, I'm sure this Douche-Bag, "FredM" will be posting again soon under a new name...

!!SCAM ALERT!! Another, New, Unknown User posting… Demand Clear images with your email address written on a small piece of paper laying right on top of the Gun. Talk to the poster on the phone to determine if he has a Nigerian or other strange accent. Does he know anything about guns and this gun in particular? Is he calling from a weird VOIP Google Phone or some other non-standard modality? Get Verifiable References from this Board or another reputable site - do Not rely on an easily stolen Identity from Gun-Broker, etc… Be smart and save your $$$. Don't become the latest victim of Scum-Bag Scammers!

I agree. Transferable Sears, etc., Cannot be, Legally, utilized Unless you have a Rock-Solid Determination Letter from Tech Branch specifically stating BATFE Approval. Would be Awesome if that comes to pass but I also wish that Jeb Bush would be our next President...

Your understanding is Correct. You will need to SBR the Original Host that the Registered Sear is presently married to. Once you've gotten the Approved Form back from NFA, you will be able to move the Registered Sear, in the HK Trigger Group, to other Hosts compatible with that configuration. Hope that helps and Congratulations on acquiring the Sear and probably a Ton of Hosts down the road!

!!SCAM ALERT!! Another, New, Unknown User posting… Demand Clear images with your email address written on a small piece of paper laying right on top of the Gun. Also get a copy of the, supposed, current Transfer Form and verify All Info with NFA Branch - they will tell you if any of the info does Not match. Talk to the poster on the phone to determine if he has a Nigerian or other strange accent. Does he know anything about guns and the transfer process? Is he calling from a weird VOIP Google Phone or some other non-standard modality? Get Verifiable References from this Board or another reputable site - do Not rely on an easily stolen Identity from Gun-Broker, etc… Be smart and save your $$$. Don't become the latest victim of Scum-Bag Scammers!

Received everything today from Adam at HK Parts. Thanks to everyone that responded!

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