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  1. I think you were next to me at one of the Marietta shoots when I had it out, unless I have you confused with someone else?
  2. I forgot I had this listed for sale.
  3. Vector UZI $18K delivered Form 3. Beautiful condition. 4 mags, polymer stock, vertical forend and an original UZI bag. $18K delivered certified funds. +tax if you are an Ohio resident. email direct steve@adcofirearms.com
  4. Because they let so much slide back then is why almost every MG I have transfer from an estate (one not transferred in the last 25-30yrs) is guaranteed to get an error letter asking for more information and pictures because it doesn't match what it should be according to the registry. Also, correct me if I'm wrong here. Anyone today can pick through a scrap pile and take home an undamaged M60 trunnion, channel or bridge and have 3 nice nice paper weights, as those are just scrap parts regardless of markings. But if someone finds an undamaged 1919 right side plate in that pile and take it home, they are in possession of an unregistered machine gun.
  5. For the sake of educational discussion - - If you have a demilled M60 or for this example a demilled M14 in 1980. Are you saying someone could weld that TRW M14 receiver back together then register it on a Form 1 and "correctly" list the manufacturer as TRW? Once a machine gun always a machine gun. Once demilled it's just scrap metal and the only maker/manufacturer is the person who filed the form 1 was my understanding. The trunnion may have been manufactured by saco, but after the gun itself was demilled, that trunnion became no more than a piece of scrap metal as far as the atf was concerned. It seems your example of making an SBR from an existing firearm is an apples to oranges comparison compared to making a machine gun from scrap metal(regardless what markings are on that scrap metal) back in the day.
  6. Saco manufactured an M60 that was destroyed and sold as scrap. After that Saco M60 was demilled/scrapped, it was no longer a machine gun, it's just scrap metal. There is no manufacturer for a piece of scrap metal. The form 4 should show the maker/manufacturer as JW Law, as he is the one who made it a machine gun on a form 2. Not to say that aren't many improperly registered MGs out there.. Every HK sear host/receiver MG I've transferred that had HK or Germany on the paper form 4, came back with Vollmer, Fleming, etc. Just as every FNC came back S&H instead of Belgium. YMMV, as this NFFA world is anything but consistent.
  7. No. In my experience with a hundred or so efile transfers the manufacturer that shows on efiled forms is the original manufacturer. If this gun only transfers on paper form 4s it may remain Saco. If the next dealer transfers it via efile to the buyer, it will reflect the name of whoever originally filed the form 2.
  8. My take is It seems like what everyone is saying is, this is not an unfired Saco M60E6, and the listing title may be honest but it is not the truth.
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