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  1. s11033, It sounds like you are facing a $10,000 loss because of the "new" found transferability status of your M1 Thompson. Do you need an attorney well versed in the Class 3 world. No. You need an attorney well versed in the courtroom. This attorney will need an expert witness well versed in the legal transfer of machine guns, preferably a current or past dealer. This expert will teach your attorney about the transfer process involving machine guns and the different types of products on the market. Yes, the Class 3 world can be very complicated but the transfer and facts you told about make it an easy process to understand, much like what happens everyday. What I like most about the information you shared was the seller once owned this same M1 Thompson as a sales sample - and you have that admission in writing from the seller. That is direct knowledge something may be amiss with the transferability of this machine gun when it was sold to you. Your attorney will evaluate that writing and determine the strength. If a deposition is scheduled, that will be a huge topic of discussion along with a court ordered request for the seller to produce copies of all previous transfer forms, including Bound Book entries for this M1 Thompson. Given the loss is around $10,000 you will probably retain the services of a newer attorney. That can be a good thing but you want an experienced courtroom advocate. The venue (location) for the cause of action will be decided by your attorney with your input. I don't see enough loss for a Federal Court action. I would guess the action will commence with a letter to the seller from your attorney with a time limit to discuss settlement or a suit will be filed. Many times, that is enough to ultimately settle any dispute. Remember, the seller will have to hire an attorney to defend the suit if they have any chance defeating your claim. That costs real money, not the contingency based fee most likely you and your attorney will enter into. That said, you will probably have to pay filing fees. If me, I would contact the local bar association in your area to find the perfect attorney. Consultations are usually free. The key is to be prepared during the initial discussion. Don't forget, the attorney will also be sizing you up as a necessary witness and victim. If your not matter of fact, on point, and have all documentation you referenced in an easily searchable order, you may not get the attorney you need. And also remember, everything you post on this forum will be discoverable. Good luck! Let us know what you decide.
  2. The book has been well received in the Thompson community. And I am very grateful for the nice comments. Personalized copies are still available at $44 including shipping. See the first post for ordering information. TD.
  3. The word "TOMMY" (not TOMMY GUN") was trademarked by the Auto-Ordnance Corporation during World War II. The TOMMY GUN markings are generally found on Model of 1928 Savage manufactured Thompson guns in the mid 100,000 to mid 200,000 serial number range, but not on all guns in this limited range. My story on all of the Auto-Ordnance trademarks, including the word TOMMY, can be found in a 2010 issue of Small Arms Review magazine. It is one of my favorite Thompson stories!
  4. Thompson - 21/28 Question

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  5. Thompson - 21/28 Question

    I will be glad to review the FOIA packet from ATF when received. I have done that for a lot of Colt's. Feel free to reach out to me on this or any other Colt's with questions - NO 7204 appears to have been used as a demo gun by several parties prior to being acquired by Port Chester Police Department. The FOIA will show when NO 7204 was originally registered with the IRS. That may explain the Form 10. While I cannot explain it, I do know that some Form 10 guns are transferable. And have been transferred. I believe it has something to do with the date of registration. Some guns have also be registered several times over the years. I would guess NO 7204 was well used when acquired by the Port Chester PD, probably at a discounted price if sold directly by Federal Laboratories or Auto-Ordnance. The pilfering of the Colt's parts and refinish most likely happened at the Port Chester PD. I am glad the frame number matches the receiver number. A big plus. A quick review of NO 7204 reveals the ejector and rear sight may be original parts (but unfortunately, parkerized). Perhaps the grip mount is original too. I cannot tell about the fore grip but the other wood is definitely not original. If priced right as-is, NO 7204 could be turned into a beautiful Colt's shooter gun with a professional re-blue, new wood and barrel. Many of the GI parts could be altered for the Colt's look.
  6. Thompson - 21/28 Question

    ATT-Tactical, You have acquired a very interesting Thompson gun. NO 7204 was in inventory at Federal Laboratories and listed as a 1928AC on July 26, 1934. While the U.S. NAVY markings have been applied in a rather sloppy manner compared to many other NAVY marked Thompsons, the markings were most likely applied by Auto-Ordnance employees when NO 7204 was converted from a Model of 1921 to a Model of 1928AC or U.S. NAVY Model Thompson. I have pictures of other Colt NAVY Thompsons with similar sloppy markings. Review of the pictures you posted indicate most, if not all of the Colt's parts have been replaced with GI parts. The finish is also not original. I am assuming the frame serial number matches the receiver serial number, but please correct me if I am mistaken. The two L drums shown in one picture are not of the Colt's era. One is a World War II "Bridgeport" drum; the other is from Auto-Ordnance in West Hurley, New York. NO 7204 is definitely a shooter grade Colt Thompson. Since it has been refinished, there is really no way to return it to its original form. And the cost would be very prohibitive. That said, NO 7204 could be made into a very nice Colt shooter Thompson. I would also suggest you save all the IRS/ATF forms that you have for NO 7204. The results of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request would be very interesting. Contact me if you would like some help in filing a FOIA. The cost is usually free.
  7. Does the serial number on the frame match the serial number on the receiver? A picture of the serial number on the frame would be helpful. Are the buffer pilot and recoil spring included? Thanks!
  8. If your in need of a Christmas present for that Thompson enthusiast who seems to have everything, give the gift that keeps on giving for many years - An Amateur's Guide for the Colt's Thompson Submachine Gun! Available at and will reach you by Christmas if you act fast. If an Amateur's Guide... is already in your library, you may want to check out my first book, Great Britain - The Tommy Gun Story. Also available on with a look inside feature that allows you to review a few pages. Have a wonderful holiday season. And don't forget that C drum dump to bring in the New Year!
  9. Thumpy, There are many different Thompson variations. A non-matching frame on any of them will generally impact price. One exception is a later M1A1 Thompson without a serial number on the frame. Colt guns with mis-matched frames will take the greatest hit in price and value, probably a 5K decrease in price. World War II Thompsons by Savage and Auto-Ordnance Bridgeport (AOB) not as much. It really depends on what you want to do with the Thompson you purchase. There are shooter grades in all variations, i.e., non-original finish, incomplete, non-matching, etc., and some variations are shooter grade even if new in the box, i.e., West Hurley's, 1928AC's, NAC crate guns, Pearl's, etc. Decide what you want and what you want to do with it (safe queen - display only, very little shooting or a shooter). Regarding matching and non-matching World War II Thompson guns, both exist in the marketplace. Matching 1928A1's are not rare and but with everything else being equal, will usually cost a little more. And will usually sell for a little more to the next caretaker. Shooter grade Colt's without the original barrel, wood, internal parts and poor or refinish can be found for under 30K. Aside from that great buy every now and then, there is usually a reason why one gun sells high and another of the same variation sells low. Decide on a variation, study the marketplace, buy a few books and join one or both of the Thompson Associations. This will make you an informed buyer. Good luck.
  10. Again, thank you for all the kind words about my book. I do have copies available that I can personalize and mail.
  11. Ian McCollum posted a review of my book, An Amateur's Guide for the Colt's Thompson Submachine Gun, on his website, Aside from Ian's comments, he thumbs through the pages of the book providing a great inside look.
  12. Is just the actuator for sale? If so, the price please. Thanks!
  13. I really appreciate all the kind remarks and comments I have received about my new book. Thank you!!!
  14. I am going to bring this back to the top. Great Britain - The Tommy Gun Story was initially released in January 2015. I wish to thank everyone that has made this publication a success and more importantly, the authority on the Thompson gun in Great Britain during World War II. Available at fine book stores and on with a list price of $29.99. Personalized copies can be purchased directly from the author at a Sturmgewehr special price of $25 plus $4.00 shipping in the continental United States. Contact Tom Davis, Jr. at for purchase information. Other books by Tom Davis, Jr. - An Amateur’s Guide for the Colt’s Thompson Submachine Gun