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  1. We have a Southern Tactical Galil SAR SBR built on a Tortort receiver with Galil SAR parts, except the barrel. This firearm is offered as new and unfired. It was originally purchased from Southern Tactical off the Sturmgewehr site. It was planned to be used as a Post Sample build that's is no longer planned. Something else came along. The SBR comes with one magazine and a soft case just as it arrived from Southern Tactical. eFile Form3. Priced at what we purchased it for at $1350 plus shipping. $40 gets you 2nd Day Air/insured. $1,390 shipped. Please PM if interested as I will not respond otherwise. Thank You David
  2. We have a Spitfire SMG in very good condition with no operating issues. The first Form 3 transfer from 1974 showed the barrel as 16.5” and the next transfer from STP to STP or SOT as in the present day vernacular was in 1978, and the barrel length on the form 3 is listed as 12.5”. The barrel length was altered in the years in between. We ran a magazine through it after we obtained it and there were no issues. The weapon has been cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaning system and lubricant applied during reassembly. The Spitfire is currently on a form 3 and in our inventory. We use the eForms system, which cuts down on Form 3 approval times. If a NV resident it can transfer directly on a Form 4 if so desired. This weapon is full auto only, there is no need to fool around with the safety to shoot the weapon, one interested party did ask the question. Just put a magazine, charge it by pulling the bolt back, so that it locks behind the sear and pull the trigger. This Spitfire is quite controllable. The rate of fire is about that of an M1-M1A1 TSMG, there is a buffer currently between the bolt and end cap of the weapon. One may remove said buffer and the rate of fire is reduced. With the GG bolt it is a little bit heavier and it is a slower rate of fire with it in the receiver, but not as slow as a GG. Operationally, it functions as a Grease Gun, bolt rides on two guide rods with recoil springs and is F/A only. It is basically a tube type receiver like the Sten, GG and several others. It is a nice submachine gun as an entry level weapon or as a shooter for others. There are not many transferable SMGs under 10k out there. Perhaps, if you can find a aftermarket Sten MkII or sometimes there are a few Sten MkV models that are registered in the NFRTR as the model at the time of manufacture. The Spitfire carbine was originally manufactured in the 1960s by the Spitfire manufacturing company of Phoenix AZ as an open bolt semi automatic carbine. It was soon discovered that with the easy manipulation of the safety lever it could be fired in full auto. Therefore in 1968 it was deemed a MG and was put under the preview of the NFA. See Rev.Rul 68-368 in the ATF website under firearms/doc/ruling for the specifics. Some have asked if the weapon is a semi auto conversion, it is not. The weapon comes with 3 grease gun magazines and a carrying case that came with our purchase. Grease Gun complete bolt assembly included in the purchase price. Will not separate the bolt assembly from the package deal. We have the FOIA weapon’s history and we can include that with the purchase if so desired. $7,800 Shipped David
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  4. Scan and email to NFAFax@atf.gov Not certain if that is still applicable.
  5. Anyone have experience doing business with Innovative Industries? They advertise a functional NFA XM177 Moderator on their website. Anyone on the board, purchase one?
  6. They were imported on Form 2s by FFL/SOTs for the most part. Look and see if you have an importer’s mark somewhere on the weapon. Most of the Pre May sales samples that have gone through our business, were imported by Inter American Import/Export Company out of Sacramento CA. There were a couple of others during that time frame. That’s what the Imported NFA Firearm means, NFA that was imported right after the 1968 Amnesty up to the May 19, 1986 post sample cut off. Sometimes the importer is listed. A FOIA request will give you the dates on the Form 2.
  7. Sometimes, the Forms have the importer or manufacturer box empty. But, in our eFrom data base, some show as imported, or the importer, such as Inter American import/ export co, Sac Ca, or the manufacturer or just Form 2 on either an import or manufacture. Even with that information, the eForm may print out without any of the above information. If you use eForms, sometimes the information is in red at the bottom of the second page on Form 3s. I do not have any experience with the eForm 4s. Sometimes, that information is missing on Form 4 paper transfers of Pre May sales samples.
  8. Smart on your part. I would not trust that calling the NFA would be a good idea. The information in the NFRTR may not be correct, as your case in point. We've had a few NFA transfers that reactivations on Form 2s. Be denied during the transfer process to another FFL/SOT or C&R holder, because the NFA entered a newly manufactured Post Sales Sample. On one occasion, we happed to have a copy of the original 68 Amnesty paperwork. The NFA did not have that original registration in the NFRTR. We have had one MG that was registered twice. Once on a Form 1, first registered in 1955 and then on a 1968 Amnesty form. The information was proved in the FOIA weapon history paperwork.
  9. I agree. A FOIA on a weapon history is the only way to get a definitive answer, no matter what is in the NFA database. I do one on all NFA weapons that we purchased. It helped when a seller had a M3A1 GG on a Form 4 that he stated that it was transferable. I noticed that it had a faint stamp of Inter ord Sac Ca. That company imported enough pre may sales samples to fill their warehouse on J street in Sacramento, back in the early 1980s. He was kind enough to submit the FOIA request on the GG. He received his request, and it was a sales sample imported on a Form 2 in 1982.
  10. For sale is an Interport manufactured Sten MkV, from Interport out of St. George UT was the last company, formed by Bill York of York Arms. Interport manufactured about 1,700 Stens during this time, (1985-1986) and out of the 1,700, only 5% were MkVs, the rest in MkII. This weapon is a registered tube Sten MkV. Our eForm inventory states, the model as a Sten MkV and Interport as the manufacturer in concurrence with the paperwork. This Sten MkV comes as a package deal including, one extra bolt, recoil spring, 2 magazines, one magazine loader and a three cell magazine pouch. The front vertical grip is removable and we purchased it as an aftermarket item. The serial number reflects the year of manufacture “1986” and 90 is the 90th Sten built in 1986. We've fired the weapon and it is a treat to operate. The MkV definitely has a better sight picture and more comfortable to operate. This Sten MkV shall transfer out to an FFL/SOT on a Eform 3 for a quick transfer, NV residents it'll transfer on a Form 4. You don't see too many registered MKV models out there as most of the transferable Stens are MkII models. Information about Interport was obtained from "The Sten Machine Carbine" by Peter Laidler. PM if more information is needed or direct contact. I’m on machine gun board too. Been a member since 2003. $9,000 David DCI Reno, Nevada
  11. Read section 479.105(f) carefully, there is a word in this section that should help to clarify the going out of business part of it.
  12. Realistically, incremental changes is the best path to addressing the above issues. The politicalized government agency will not let up in attempts to circumvent current law in order widen the definition of what a frame or SBR. The 1968GCA and the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act in which contains the Hughes amendment. Those two pieces of legislation changed the way NFA rules are applied after the NFA act of 1934. Agreed, that the abuse of the LE demo letter is out there, but is there enough empirical evidence to warrant broad brush solutions as some have listed in this thread? I seriously doubt if any of us have that information. We know that the ATF is currently reviewing any PS LE demo letter transfers. Seems that it’s in the ATFs preview within the current law. If it’s not. Then that is out there for litigation. A more realistic approach for the ATF is to make it mandatory to require registration and the yearly compliance with ITAR. 07/02 holders that play the no law letter game for a quick buck. Might think twice about as guys put it, “gaming the system.” Currently the ITAR compliance fee is $2,270 per year. The word has been out for a few years, even though there has been different definitions and some confusion about the implications of having to comply or not out there in NFA industry land. The big manufacturers companies comply. I can only base my opinion in as far as the small business 07/02 SOTs that I’ve broached this subject, have told me that t most do not comply. That’s a personal choice. The ATF doesn’t require a firearm business to open its business books, other than the ones under the purview of the ATF. It is doubtful that the ATF has the authority to use any information of a LE agency’s ability to afford to purchase any of the weapons listed on the demo letter. There may be some truth to such a scheme. If the ATF wants to create a list of acceptable weapons that most LE agencies use in the pursuit of its members duties. It would be better if it were in writing and that stipulation is under the current purview of the ATF based on current NFA law passed by Congress. Whether the ATF decides to enforce the DDTC ITAR compliance, remains to be seen. I get the venting and frustration out there in the industry. But, complacency is not going to accomplish anything. Ignoring the possible elephant in the room so to speak, doesn’t seem like a good game plan. Just food for thought.
  13. I would not be surprised if the ATF finally states that any 07/02 needs to register every year through the DDTC Department of State portal as ITAR compliant. $2270 yearly. Those who have followed the policy changes over the years, might see the possibility of the BATFE requiring ITAR compliance before renewal of a 07/02 holder. There has been much back and forth on the definition guidelines that require ITAR compliance. Talking to 07/02 FFL/SOTs since the policy changes, most do not register with the Department of State. If this compliance becomes mandatory, one might see the fly by night 07/02s that make dropping their SOT every few years to dump their post samples, fade away. Rules and guidelines change, you can bet on that…
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