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  1. Hi Got Uzi, I appreciate the thoughts. Yes. My head still hurts. I'm surprised that FFL's are not exempt from FS 538 as the A&D books and other FFL responsibilities make much of the reporting in FS 538 redundant. If the FFL only sold new firearms and never purchased any used firearms (or took them in on consignment), BATF's requirement to "comply with local and state laws" would only consist of registering as a Secondhand Dealer ($6/yr per location) plus a background investigation). Where it becomes onerous is being compliant with the record keeping and PD reporting requirements of FS 538. I'm really hoping that the interpretation of the law is incorrect. The problem becomes convincing BATF that FS 538 does not apply. Thanks, Grasshopper
  2. Hi riflejunky, It certainly does sound like a pawn broker. The weird thing is on the Florida department of revenue application it states: "Every person or business entity must register with the Florida Department of Revenue as a sales and use tax dealer and as a secondhand dealer or secondary metals recycler before engaging in business in Florida." Later on the same application it is written: "A business that engages in “pawnbroker” activities or title loan transactions is not required to register as a secondhand dealer." The biggest problem is the local PD are to supply a transaction form. You ask for the local transaction form (that must be turned into the PD) and you get a blank stare. Grasshopper
  3. Hi All, Forgive me. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box by any means. Not a lawyer. Just trying to figure this one out: Part of operating an FFL is to comply with state and local laws. Does anyone know of how a gunshop in Florida does not fit under FS 538? This came up with a local BATF examiner here in Florida. The FFL in Florida was planning on doing some consignment and buying/selling of used firearms as well as new firearms. Florida has this statute, 538, that defines a Secondhand dealer as: “Secondhand dealer” means any person, corporation, or other business organization or entity which is not a secondary metals recycler subject to part II and which is engaged in the business of purchasing, consigning, or trading secondhand goods." The Florida Statute goes on to enumerate the requirements for registration, documentation, and reporting that goes with being a secondhand dealer. It includes photos of the firearm(s), description, number of barrels, caliber, color, manufacturer (you get the just). It specifically indicates "sporting goods with a permanent S/N". The statute also indicates that within 24 hours the information is to be provided to the appropriate law enforcement agency. I've checked with local law enforcement and they know nothing about this Florida Statute. In short, does a FFL in Florida have to comply with FS 538 or is there an exemption that I'm missing? This one makes my head hurt, Grasshopper ps. Showing my age. I was offended by the following quote when I was an idealistic teenager. Maybe not so much as I mature: Frank Zappa: "The United States is a nation of laws, badly written and randomly enforced."
  4. Hi Greasegunner, I've scanned the photos and put them directly on the eform4. This is easy enough if you have a scanner or even a cell phone and know how to resize a photo. When you execute the eform4 without an .eft file the system emails you a cover letter for submission of the paper fp cards. I verify the ORI is correct on the supplied prints and mail them off to the address on the cover letter. It is important to be ready to mail the fp cards. IIRC, they have to be in BATF's hands in 10 days or there abouts. Entering the electronic age, having your own .eft file is handy. I was surprised how many places supply the service (at a cost of about $50). The nice thing is if you have done the .eft file correctly, much of the eform4 fills in automatically. Enjoy, Grasshopper
  5. Hi Greasegunner, I concur. 1.) Yes. 2.) I have the customer give me the appropriate sized photo (.jpg) and his .eft file. I've had the customer in the shop doing the electronic transfer as some of the inputs have to be attested by the transferee IIRC. I've not performed an E-file form 4 w/o the transferee in the shop so I've no knowledge of how that works. If you don't use an .eft file for the prints, make sure the transferee has the cards done and ready to mail and they have the correct ORI. BATF will email you a cover sheet to be included with the paper prints. I've submitted w/o the .eft file using paper prints w/o any issues. The transferee has something like 10 days to have them in BATFE's hands (hence the make sure the transferee has the cards completed and ready when you submit the form 4. Hope this is more helpful than confusing, Enjoy, Grasshopper
  6. Thanks Aaron!, It appears that the flash hider is not included in the barrel length per the 22 inch length. It is included in the OAL. Great information, Grasshopper
  7. Hi All, I'm working on transferring a RIA M60 (in original configuration). Owner lost his paperwork. I measure 43.5" for the Overall Length. (That one is easy?) The barrel length is the question. Is this measured from bolt face to the end of the flash hider or to the end of the barrel? I know you can get the flash hider off but does Uncle Sam include it in the barrel length for the dimensions of the M60 MG? Thanks, Grasshopper
  8. Hi All, Super nice of BATF to send the reminder after the cut-in date. Started using the new 4473 last year and it startled me as some of the questions had been clarified. I just go to the BATF web site and download the latest form. We were a small volume store so printing them as required worked well. I'm in agreement that changes/revisions to the forms seem to be occurring rather often. New normal? Enjoy, Grasshopper
  9. Hi Bore, Likely a Kern 4x24. The old bighammer site has photos. Enjoy, Grasshopper ps. Oops. My reply was for the Sig 510
  10. Hi All, Just did a bunch before Christmas. Mostly about 7 days total. A few went 2 weeks. Normally 1-3 days. Enjoy, Grasshopper
  11. Hi, FWIW, for the small FFL/SOT, USPS appears to be the only option. I make sure I file a PS Form 1508, wrap it up like a mummy with an outer covering of brown paper, use the correct water activated paper/fiber tape, and off to the post office to mail USPS Registered and Insured. I also carry a copy of the shop FFL/SOT and the appropriate Federal license information to prove the package is going from a "bona fide dealer" to a "bona fide dealer". Luck for us nothing as taken more than 8 calendar days to arrive at the destination. Nothing has gone missing in 23 years so no comment on the quality of the insurance. Good Luck, Grasshopper
  12. Hi All, Those are questions on an older revision of the 4473. BATF's latest, August 2023 has made some sensible changes. 21.m.1 "Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?" (Y/N) and 21.m.2 "If you answered "yes" to question 21.m.1, do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions?" (Y/N) Nothing like a few changes in the forms to keep us awake! Current August 23 2023 revision: m.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa? (Y/N) m.2. If you answered “Yes” to question 21.m.1, do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? (Y/N) Grasshopper
  13. Hi MP5, It will be like playing the lottery. -- You can be sure if you put more than one caliber it will get rejected so that should be a non-starter. -- You can select the most likely caliber it would have seen at time of registration. My favorite option. -- You can leave it blank. Who knows. If the first form was blank BATF might want it blank. Either way I'd not be concerned. If need be it gets kicked back for corrections. All my returned forms are normally approved in about 3 weeks after the correction. As mentioned. Don't put too much time in thinking about it as there isn't much of a down side of not getting it right the first time. In my recent experience, they don't care what is on the current form. BATF seems to be going back to the 1st registration form to read the information. Enjoy, Grasshopper
  14. Hi All, I'm not a lawyer, standard disclaimer applies. I'm going to assume that the FFL/SOT that passed ran his business as a sole proprietorship? If it was an LLC or partnership there may be issues with the supressors he just brought home (like what entity is the registered owner). The same issue with the trust. I did read the BATF is working on laws concerning NFA succession with Trusts but I do not think the issue has been remedied. I'm with johnsonlmg41 when it comes to Trusts. To preserve ownership of NFA by Trusts is something that takes care to prevent loss of the NFA item. Hope you have good results. Please post if you get this resolved so that we can learn. Grasshopper
  15. Hi theMexican, And the plot thickens For debatable reasons, an "X" has also been added to your S/N. I know of one very much like this one with S/N 152,NNNX. BTW, buy it! Very solid shooters that run well and are quite rugged. Enjoy, Grasshopper
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